Your right MIl the only way is to test them, I think some of the studs sell great grandchildren of proven, then sometimes only on the one side. Too much scope for dilution

Whilst there's no guarantees with anything in pigeon racing it seems logical to me that a pedigree that's full of pigeons that have performed at both racing and breeding for consecutive and successive generations have a much greater chance of repeating the same trick I agree but all I can go is from...

Yep I agree Mil two back would be outstanding. But to go through the programme they would have to be a bit special. Starting up its really difficult to get good birds. No-one wants to sell from their race team. If you buy children of their best to breed from. You would still be breeding from unprove...

Thanks Everyone. They have been entered under the name The Two Arthurs (after my dad and my son). If they get to the end I will be very pleased

Hello I'm really please to say I managed to get a couple of Birds in a one loft. After the RPRA was cancelled. Luckily I managed to get a couple of entries into the UK Premier. I visited Lee Painter over the weekend and he kindly let me have a pair at a fraction of their true value and refused to ta...

Showing my ignorance fanciers are now on hawk watch when the birds are loft flying. Apart from calling them in when a hawks about is there anything you can do to try and stop an attack?

Only a few years ago it was sold out in December with a waiting list. There have been unfortunate returns before due to just bad luck. What's changed?

When I used to race it was times so no birds arrived before 2.30pm. So you could still work Saturday mornings

I live near Marlborough in Wiltshire. But where have all the hawks come from and why are they picking on racing pigeons when I would have thought town pigeons would have been easier prey. I remember a few news reports back in the day and the presenters seemed to think it was funny that birds were be...

I just cant believe it how do you continue? Where have they suddenly all come from. At the end of a distance race the bird is likely to be tired and on its own what chance does it have?. I remember my heart being in my mouth when the ybs went out for the first few times the worry then was only cats ...