Respiratory

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NeilA
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If a pigeon pigeons have what you think is respo issues but not obvious to the eye no greasy wattle etc
How do you know what anti biotic works how do you define what form of respo /orni it us
Say between doxy tylan Linco etc
Are they all a solution or which goes with which form of respo /orni

My hens flew 90 mins today before I called them in but I still feel there is a underlying respo type issue nothing you can see with the eye as the wattles are like new chalk just a feeling I have
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At the start of the season racing pigeons, like athletes, must be in perfect health and condition. Yet, at the start of the season we already see many lofts suffering from respiratory problems


RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS IN RACING PIGEONS: THE GREATEST KILLJOY?
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IN RESPIRATORY TRACT INFECTIONS, SEVERAL FACTORS SHOULD BE ADDRESSED SIMULTANEOUSLY.
In respiratory tract infections, several factors should be addressed simultaneously. Usually there is an infection with a pathogen, in many cases with the chlamydia bacteria, the causative agent of ornithosis. In addition, the environmental factors/the loft climate should also be taken into account, as poor ventilation and too high a humidity level in the loft can also be disastrous.

Do you notice the following symptoms in your pigeons? Then the alarm bell should ring immediately.

The nose cere and eye rims are slightly discoloured, and not chalky white
The heads are no longer nicely smooth and streamlined, and the “ears” are standing straight up
The eyes are a little wet and slightly inflamed
The pigeons frequently scratch their heads with their feet
The pigeons open their beaks a lot and they seem to be yawning
When training, pigeons land on the roof with their beaks open
In worse cases, pigeons rattle and have respiratory problems with the slightest effort
Do you notice these problems with your pigeons in the run-up to the season? Then treatment becomes essential. In case of ornithosis, you can treat the pigeon with a suitable antibiotic based on doxycycline. Ask your vet for more advice.

Do you notice recurring problems with respiratory infections every year? Then have your pigeons tested for ornithosis at the vet after the season, or have an autopsy performed on an affected pigeon. We highly recommend it, since that is how you can easily find out which germs are causing the disease and what medication should be used to treat the pigeons. In case of a true ornithosis infection, treatment of four to six weeks in the winter period is recommended to keep the pigeons completely chlamydia-free.

But environmental factors and ventilation in the loft must also be thoroughly scrutinized. When returning from the first practice flights, a pleasant loft climate can contribute to a good recovery of the pigeons while also preventing respiratory problems. Often the ventilation is incorrect, causing the pigeons to sit in draught. This makes them much more susceptible to respiratory problems. For ventilation, try to mimic a chimney effect, where the pigeons do not have to sit in the air circulation. So, be sure not to open up too much on different sides of the loft.

The dryness in the loft also plays a big role. If you have heating in the loft, turn it on several hours before the pigeons arrive. Aim for a humidity level of about 65%. If you want to compensate for excessive humidity in the loft with artificial heating, the ventilation must be adjusted accordingly to prevent any oxygen deficiency. In fact, you are heating with the windows open.
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Not really seen them symptoms Devo
It’s not obvious
So what is the difference in the possible respo / orni / chlamydia
Are all noticeable ?
I held a hen to my ear I bent her neck back and i am sure I could here a very slight crackle I then picked up two more and nothing but around the 8th pigeon I think I could hear it again
What type of respo / iron etc would this be ?
I blind treated with doxycycline from Giantel 6 weeks back then used the broncho sprint last week both have different ingredients
The loft is cork dry / I have a 3 ft by 2ft open window there was 24 birds in there originally 19 now
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I never saw any athlete win Olympic Gold who was carrying a respiratory infection

Any athlete (pigeon included) that isn't 100% healthy cannot give of its best - that's just common sense

In my experience the best test for respiratory was to go and sit in the loft at Midnight on a Saturday night in the dark and I'd just sit there and listen for half an hour and more. This is the kind of attention to detail that eludes a lot of fanciers

You should hear silence - but if you here scratching and sneezing then its a sure sign of respiratory and I would act - regardless of the performance just achieved

Which teatment? Well, its a little bit of trial and error to be honest

I always found Spiramycin based ones especially effective in our loft - more so than say Doxycycline ;)

Be sure to remove the grit if you use Doxy based products ;)
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It’s a good point Mike but no I haven’t seen scratching or sneezing or nothing really I stand outside after work to listen to the cocks and hear nothing although I must admit I don’t tne hens often
The spiramycin is in broncho sprint product that I used
They flew well 90 mins pretty much
When they dropped I saw one pant
It’s just this little like crackling noise I can hear in a few when I hold the beak and pull the head back
If I didn’t do that i honestly wouldn’t think there is a issue
Kind of sound you need silence to hear
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Panting never really concerns me
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This is a older hen that’s in the section
For early cocks arrivals
Example of pigeons head
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MIL wrote: Wed Jun 19, 2024 12:46 pm dac.JPG

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Maybe I should have got that rather than the tollison one
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Some really good points raised on this topic, very helpful to all.
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