His birds won in club/Fed/Sections in National. What's your point Mike?
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I'm sure there are many fanciers that have better performances than Marley.
You said your birds were basedv on birds that won - and you stressed the word WON
To me, Section winners are birds that win their Section, but with respect they aren't "Winners" - that's my point
I guess we just set the bar in different places.
Being a fancier from the South one thing I will say is that there is a lot of dog legging, dead time flying put in by a lot of the pigeons down this way not giving a true indication of how many miles that have actually flown. This doesn’t really happen to much with the longer flying northern flyers. It doesn’t matter so much where along the coast the hit land they are still flying north. If for example in a south west wind our birds from down this way hit land in the South East they would then have to fly 100+ miles along the coast against the wind and all in dead time.
Back just enjoying club racing for the time being.
Like the padfields in the Bicc races compared to KentAndy wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:27 pm Being a fancier from the South one thing I will say is that there is a lot of dog legging, dead time flying put in by a lot of the pigeons down this way not giving a true indication of how many miles that have actually flown. This doesn’t really happen to much with the longer flying northern flyers. It doesn’t matter so much where along the coast the hit land they are still flying north. If for example in a south west wind our birds from down this way hit land in the South East they would then have to fly 100+ miles along the coast against the wind and all in dead time.
There must have been many times there birds crossed two hours ahead only to be beat
Where you set the bar Mike is up to you. But how do you feel about winners of 2B or Gold rings? Are they winners? A well known friend of yours claimed them as National wins?MIL wrote: ↑Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:46 pm
You said your birds were basedv on birds that won - and you stressed the word WON
To me, Section winners are birds that win their Section, but with respect they aren't "Winners" - that's my point
I guess we just set the bar in different places.
Nice deflection King - it's taken you a while to think of that
In my eyes they aren't "winners"
There's a convoy, there's a liberation, there's a winner
Simples
And as it happens, the birds of Mark Evans (who I assume you're referring to) have won many a true National as you may know
In fact, the 1st Open NFC Tarbes of 2024 is of Mark's bloodlines
Maybe that floats your boat enough?
In my eyes they aren't "winners"
There's a convoy, there's a liberation, there's a winner
Simples
And as it happens, the birds of Mark Evans (who I assume you're referring to) have won many a true National as you may know
In fact, the 1st Open NFC Tarbes of 2024 is of Mark's bloodlines
Maybe that floats your boat enough?