"Dyeing" white pigeons.
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The only way to find out for sure would be for you try you idea and document the results!
Would be a difficult thing to try and document though I'm sure!
Would be a difficult thing to try and document though I'm sure!
I remember a chap moved to Wales and did a article for the BHW
He had all colours the whites and pieds went to the BOP then the reds etc then the blues and darks that’s as average obviously not completely in order
So he concluded the BOP hits them in colours but still took them when only the cheqs/ darks were left
They will take them all as we know it is just that a red, grizzle or mealy stands out more in a groupNeilA wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:14 amI remember a chap moved to Wales and did a article for the BHW
He had all colours the whites and pieds went to the BOP then the reds etc then the blues and darks that’s as average obviously not completely in order
So he concluded the BOP hits them in colours but still took them when only the cheqs/ darks were left
Sadies Lofts home of decent birds just a useless loft manager, and now a confirmed loser but proud



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I have already dyed a white grizzle stock cock as an experiment. I have dyed it to a dark grey grizzle.Winfort Lofts wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:53 am The only way to find out for sure would be for you try you idea and document the results!
Would be a difficult thing to try and document though I'm sure!
I will do a couple of racers for next year - one of which got hit as a yb.
I've been thinking of dying all of them to disguise them as woodys LOL


I have a pair of Peregrine's nesting within 1.5 miles and 2 or 3 pairs of sparrowhawks. I myself have only lost one bird around home in the last 6 years, a black. There's plenty of feral's around but not many reds. What is surprising is there is a pure white feral with a blue tail. It's been around for about 3 years now. Last saw it a couple of day's ago.NeilA wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:14 amI remember a chap moved to Wales and did a article for the BHW
He had all colours the whites and pieds went to the BOP then the reds etc then the blues and darks that’s as average obviously not completely in order
So he concluded the BOP hits them in colours but still took them when only the cheqs/ darks were left
I believe ANY colour is a target for BOP. It's down to pure luck what is taken. I recall a few on pigeon chat saying having birds out over Winter makes them 'streetwise'. But they all still admitted a few were still taken. If 'streetwise' was a thing, the Wild birds would have an advantage, but it seems that they don't.
the reds and meals stand out more in the ultraviolet spectrum as they say bob can see them like a kestral they say it can see the urine trails glow left by mouse it doesn't just fly round till it sees movement it hovers above the trails as it knows there's activity thereBuster121 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:02 amThey will take them all as we know it is just that a red, grizzle or mealy stands out more in a groupNeilA wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:14 amI remember a chap moved to Wales and did a article for the BHW
He had all colours the whites and pieds went to the BOP then the reds etc then the blues and darks that’s as average obviously not completely in order
So he concluded the BOP hits them in colours but still took them when only the cheqs/ darks were left
williams and hadfield
king wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 3:11 pmI have a pair of Peregrine's nesting within 1.5 miles and 2 or 3 pairs of sparrowhawks. I myself have only lost one bird around home in the last 6 years, a black. There's plenty of feral's around but not many reds. What is surprising is there is a pure white feral with a blue tail. It's been around for about 3 years now. Last saw it a couple of day's ago.NeilA wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2024 10:14 amI remember a chap moved to Wales and did a article for the BHW
He had all colours the whites and pieds went to the BOP then the reds etc then the blues and darks that’s as average obviously not completely in order
So he concluded the BOP hits them in colours but still took them when only the cheqs/ darks were left
I believe ANY colour is a target for BOP. It's down to pure luck what is taken. I recall a few on pigeon chat saying having birds out over Winter makes them 'streetwise'. But they all still admitted a few were still taken. If 'streetwise' was a thing, the Wild birds would have an advantage, but it seems that they don't.
About 10 years ago I screwed a nest box to one side of my loft and had a pair open all winter , in then days only one sparrow hawk was a issue not the peregrine here
Anyway I thought they got streetwise to the February as they had 5 months of being out ,both were killed in a week by the sparrow hawks that February so I realised they just didn’t need them to then
The ones I have lost around home this year have been a blue w/f, blue x 2, blue cheq x 2 and a dark grizzle. All these birds had been raced. I do have though a white red grizzle who is now 8 years old and been flying out all the time.
Back just enjoying club racing for the time being.