One hell of a eye for me, class i would say.
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it;s only a guest Neil will go for eye 6 as best bird
6 was the 3 times fed winner and bred 5 individual fed winnersGeorge and Morgan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2024 7:22 pm it;s only a guest Neil will go for eye 6 as best bird
You were right George
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thanks Neil no need for Andy lol
I use eyesign as an insight to breeding and selecting which to pair to which to complement each other. For this there are certain things I look for.
So Neil, going through your birds.
You can see the resemblance in the first 3 and not surprised you say they are related.
No.1
The inner circle of this one has just what I was saying, looks like a washer around the pupil. It is a full violet with only a little light shading between 7 o’clock and 9 o’clock in the photo. The outer edge of this circle has a little bit of serration especially between 7 & 10 o’clock. On the slight downside for breeding purposes is the fullness of the iris. This is the reddish/brown colour that covers most of the violet circle of colouration. A nice eye that I would look to pair to one with more room in the iris.
No.2
This eye is similar to the first one but has an area of dark shading between 2 o’clock and 7 o’clock when looking at the pigeon. The photo shows the beak of the pigeon being in the bottom right of the photo. The inner circle isn’t quite so wide as the first one. The iris isn’t quite as full as the first one with more of the violet showing through. The iris is more mountainous than the first one. By this I mean that the reddish iris looks like it’s been stuck on over the top of the circle of colouration.
No.3
This one hasn’t got as good inner circle of the first 2 but has more room in the iris. The inner circle has a large area of dark shading, which is also quite wide, between 2 o’clock and 8 o’clock. What I do like is seeing the violet circle of colouration showing through the iris in several places.
No.4
You say this one is very different to the others in your loft Neil. I really like this eye and would certainly say it has the potential to breed winners. I would say the reason you say it’s different is because it’s much lighter in colour than your others.
The inner circle is a dominant violet, nearly white. It is nice and wide with a bit of serration and no dark shading. There are also some ripples with in this circle. The circle of colouration, again dominate violet, can be seen right to the outside edge of the eye. The iris, which is reddish pink is laid nicely over the circle of colouration with veins running down to the inner circle. This is a very nice eye.
No.5
I see what you’re saying about the inner circle of this one. The circle is so full of dark shading it does appear to be breaking out into the circle of colouration. You can’t really see the circle because of this. This is one that would want to go with an eye like either 1 or 4. I do however like the circle of colouration and iris. The violet circle of colouration can be seen through to the outside of the eye and has loads of ripples and waves throughout.
No.6
Unfortunately Neil this photo is a bit blurred so not very easy to assess. Gets worse if you try to enlarge it. A very different colour to your other ones but from what I can see looks quite nice. You say he is 14. The eye does deteriorate a bit with age.
No.7
I think this one should breed you winners Neil. The inner circle, this time of yellow, is nice and wide. It has a bit of light shading between 6 o’clock and 10 o’clock. It does look a bit thin between 3 & 5 o’clock but that’s because the colour here is very similar to the circle of colouration. Again the yellow circle of colouration can be seen around the outer edge of the eye. The orange iris is quite mountainous and has plenty of room.
I must add though that when assessing eye sign in a pigeon you do need to look at both eyes, they can vary from eye to eye.
Hope this is useful information for you Neil.
So Neil, going through your birds.
You can see the resemblance in the first 3 and not surprised you say they are related.
No.1
The inner circle of this one has just what I was saying, looks like a washer around the pupil. It is a full violet with only a little light shading between 7 o’clock and 9 o’clock in the photo. The outer edge of this circle has a little bit of serration especially between 7 & 10 o’clock. On the slight downside for breeding purposes is the fullness of the iris. This is the reddish/brown colour that covers most of the violet circle of colouration. A nice eye that I would look to pair to one with more room in the iris.
No.2
This eye is similar to the first one but has an area of dark shading between 2 o’clock and 7 o’clock when looking at the pigeon. The photo shows the beak of the pigeon being in the bottom right of the photo. The inner circle isn’t quite so wide as the first one. The iris isn’t quite as full as the first one with more of the violet showing through. The iris is more mountainous than the first one. By this I mean that the reddish iris looks like it’s been stuck on over the top of the circle of colouration.
No.3
This one hasn’t got as good inner circle of the first 2 but has more room in the iris. The inner circle has a large area of dark shading, which is also quite wide, between 2 o’clock and 8 o’clock. What I do like is seeing the violet circle of colouration showing through the iris in several places.
No.4
You say this one is very different to the others in your loft Neil. I really like this eye and would certainly say it has the potential to breed winners. I would say the reason you say it’s different is because it’s much lighter in colour than your others.
The inner circle is a dominant violet, nearly white. It is nice and wide with a bit of serration and no dark shading. There are also some ripples with in this circle. The circle of colouration, again dominate violet, can be seen right to the outside edge of the eye. The iris, which is reddish pink is laid nicely over the circle of colouration with veins running down to the inner circle. This is a very nice eye.
No.5
I see what you’re saying about the inner circle of this one. The circle is so full of dark shading it does appear to be breaking out into the circle of colouration. You can’t really see the circle because of this. This is one that would want to go with an eye like either 1 or 4. I do however like the circle of colouration and iris. The violet circle of colouration can be seen through to the outside of the eye and has loads of ripples and waves throughout.
No.6
Unfortunately Neil this photo is a bit blurred so not very easy to assess. Gets worse if you try to enlarge it. A very different colour to your other ones but from what I can see looks quite nice. You say he is 14. The eye does deteriorate a bit with age.
No.7
I think this one should breed you winners Neil. The inner circle, this time of yellow, is nice and wide. It has a bit of light shading between 6 o’clock and 10 o’clock. It does look a bit thin between 3 & 5 o’clock but that’s because the colour here is very similar to the circle of colouration. Again the yellow circle of colouration can be seen around the outer edge of the eye. The orange iris is quite mountainous and has plenty of room.
I must add though that when assessing eye sign in a pigeon you do need to look at both eyes, they can vary from eye to eye.
Hope this is useful information for you Neil.
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