https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o0hmE3SVVGA
Many years ago I brought a ten year stock hen from Louella pigeon world for £75, she was the first and last pigeon I ever bought. Unfortunately I only managed to breed a couple of youngsters off her before losing her when she escaped from the loft. I don't remember doing much with the youngsters.
Anyway having seen this clip come up on YouTube yesterday it is clear that this fancier is still at the top of his game and many fanciers on the continent are still winning with this long established family of pigeons yet they are never advertised. It seems to me that pigeon breeds aren't unlike clothing, everyone wants the latest fashion which means many great families are going completely unnoticed. Just my thoughts, what do others feel !!!!
Why do some strains go out of fashion
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have noticed Trev the words double grandchild being used a lot now
Their not the in family and more people are going for the latest fad and more sprint pigeons especially with the lack of channel racing available.
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Strains are a bit of a fallacy anyway. They are all bred from someone else's pigeons.
Even the pigeons of Leo Heremans had the blood of 'Olympiade' from Gust Jansen all through them. Then Flyers like Dirk Van Bulck and Marcel Sangers got hold of them and suddenly what had been 'pure' Heremans were now 'pure'Van Den Bulcks.
Many of the very best racers don't claim their pigeons are 'pure' anything. They are always looking for a better pigeon to improve their family. The people selling the so called pure bred strains might sometimes be more interested in the fast dollar than the fast pigeon. When a flyer gets a family that produces some top results, his pigeons become the latest thing and everyone wants them.
Even the pigeons of Leo Heremans had the blood of 'Olympiade' from Gust Jansen all through them. Then Flyers like Dirk Van Bulck and Marcel Sangers got hold of them and suddenly what had been 'pure' Heremans were now 'pure'Van Den Bulcks.
Many of the very best racers don't claim their pigeons are 'pure' anything. They are always looking for a better pigeon to improve their family. The people selling the so called pure bred strains might sometimes be more interested in the fast dollar than the fast pigeon. When a flyer gets a family that produces some top results, his pigeons become the latest thing and everyone wants them.
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Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for verily, he shall not be disappointed.
Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for verily, he shall not be disappointed.
I agree Murray. There is no such thing as a strain or family only pigeons based on another persons family. No two members have the same lines in their lofts. Once a fancier has birds in his loft they are his own family and once they have bred from them the offspring are unique to them.
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Yes I agree with your comments and if you look back far enough in most modern families you find Janssens, in my opinion you can pick those birds with Janssen in them as soon as you walk into a loft. I still go back to my original question as to why do families like those of Noel Peirin suddenly become overlooked when the family is obviously still as prominent as it ever was !!!
Now over there in Aus Murray you and obviously many others are racing Jos Thones who have been around for almost as long as Peirins but are now becoming back in favour even though as with the old Busschearts the primary colours of the family have clearly changed over the years so obviously carry very little of the original masters in their Gene's whereas breeds like Cattrysse are still predominantly blues as they always were !!! The most successful sprint families around here on the South Coast at the moment all seem to be bred down from the Pitbull line of Rudy Van Reeth and these seem to be mostly Grizzles.
At the end of the day to establish a successful team you need to be pairing the best of what you have together each year thus hopefully improving your stock year on year. Now you can speed the process up by constantly buying in from the best each year but where is the satisfaction in that !!!
Now over there in Aus Murray you and obviously many others are racing Jos Thones who have been around for almost as long as Peirins but are now becoming back in favour even though as with the old Busschearts the primary colours of the family have clearly changed over the years so obviously carry very little of the original masters in their Gene's whereas breeds like Cattrysse are still predominantly blues as they always were !!! The most successful sprint families around here on the South Coast at the moment all seem to be bred down from the Pitbull line of Rudy Van Reeth and these seem to be mostly Grizzles.
At the end of the day to establish a successful team you need to be pairing the best of what you have together each year thus hopefully improving your stock year on year. Now you can speed the process up by constantly buying in from the best each year but where is the satisfaction in that !!!
It’s all about the marketing. The big auction company’s know how to promote the latest winning lines. Also the money men that want the latest fad just to breed loads from for the market. The auctioneers like pipa take a high % of the winning bids. If the auctioneers don’t think they will make much money from a certain strain they won’t promote them.
I don’t believe that you can buy success. Different pigeons work for different fanciers on different methods. You may be lucky but no guarantee.
I don’t believe that you can buy success. Different pigeons work for different fanciers on different methods. You may be lucky but no guarantee.
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