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Re: Red Wattle - almost bleeding.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:42 pm
by NeilA
MIL wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:56 am
What I would do though is advocate a respiratory/ornithosis based treatment to birds that had hit rain
Totally agree damp does them no good they may look ok next day but it’s not always the case
You can see when you next train or race the difference
Re: Red Wattle - almost bleeding.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:20 pm
by MIL
NeilA wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 12:42 pm
MIL wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:56 am
What I would do though is advocate a respiratory/ornithosis based treatment to birds that had hit rain
Totally agree damp does them no good they may look ok next day but it’s not always the case
You can see when you next train or race the difference
Wise words mate
Re: Red Wattle - almost bleeding.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:09 pm
by Andy
This is a clip posted on our club facebook page.
https://fb.watch/sKGUcpMz8T/?
If your bird had flown through something like this it’s no wonder it has a red wattle. I wouldn’t treat for anything.
Re: Red Wattle - almost bleeding.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:45 pm
by MIL
Yesterday's weather (at times) was horrendous
Birds with red wattles don'; both me - it's what's happened internally that would concern me
Re: Red Wattle - almost bleeding.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:55 pm
by king
MIL wrote: ↑Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:45 pm
Yesterday's weather (at times) was horrendous
Birds with red wattles don'; both me - it's what's happened internally that would concern me
What could happen internally Mike? It's water hitting a birds face. It's a natural event. Have you ever yourself walked in driving rain, not nice but I bet you didn't think it was going to effect your insides?
Pink wattles only really shows on cocks with big wattles, hens with smaller wattles many not show any signs of redness, but will have flown in the same conditions.
Re: Red Wattle - almost bleeding.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:00 pm
by MIL
Like Neil says when pigeons have hit rain, next time you put them to the test they do not perform at their optimum
I've seen this myself time and time again when training after they've hit rain.
Compare that to when they've had their heads cleared and then tested and they perform better
Hence why i'd advocate an ornithosis treatment after they've hit rain (not because of red wattles)
Re: Red Wattle - almost bleeding.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 4:22 pm
by Devo1956
I would rather work on prevention than leaving for a secondary infection. I always have done, we cannot see what is going on inside of the bird. Just my thoughts.
Re: Red Wattle - almost bleeding.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:04 pm
by king
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G Turnbull Eastriggs 11:49; 12:03; 13.28
McMorrine Bros Carlisle 12:00
D Forster Biggar 12:55
D Anderson Jnr Annan 13:21; 14:40
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B Kinnear Pitlessie 13:41; 13:42
K Wright Danderhall 13:50
A Robertson Edinburgh 13:52
Black & Robertson Edinburgh 14:02; 19:43; 21:35; 08:51; 10:11
Benson & Moran Bonnyrigg 13:56; 18:09; 18:33; 22:16
R Reid Section F 13:46
Stark & Livingstone Roslin 14:10
D Hay Section E 14:34; 16:11; 18:27; 05:56; 10:16; 10:29; 11:13
Newcombe & Black Macmerry 14:27; 15:33
W Kinnear & Son Edinburgh 14:48
M & J Currie Moffat 14:47
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A Baillie Gilmerton 15:22; 18:22
Cree & Cuthbert Ayr 15:26
M Smith Ayr 15:23
Thomson Bros Forth 14:58
W Pryde & Son Gorebridge 15:51
D White & Grandson Section B 15:48
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A Nicholson Annan 16:20
M Brown Bo’ness 16:22
Mr & Mrs Forrest Section D 16:05
A Orr & Son Brightons 16:30
J Smith Linlithgow 15:42
J & G Peggie Methil 16:38; 20:54
J Coutts & Son Kintore 16:44; 08:03
Cowan & Findlay Section F 16:11; 16:44; 18:26; 05:46; 06:16
Steven & Gullane Uphall 16:56
J Bosworth Elphinstone 15:44
C & G Cameron Arbroath 17:02
D Jamieson Bathgate 17:05
D Bridges Milton of Balgonie 16:40
J Smith Polmont 15:57
A Simpson Section B 17:26
M Macpherson Letham 16:39
E & N Yule Kintore 17:35
R Donegan Newmilns 17:44
J & G Whitson Pencaitland 17:50
M Main Portlethen 18:03; 11:50; 12:56
J Ferguson Uphall 15:09
K Howie Prestonpans 17:51
A Rae Aberdeen 18:21
I Cameron Section F 18:14
G Mackenzie Broxburn 18:23
N Holt Peterhead 18:31
W Pratt Rosyth 18:29
S Fleming Windygates 18:43; 21:22
M Doran Broxburn 18:36
B Lavery Prestonpans 15:55
J & A McDougall Cumnock 18:39
D McBeath Avonbridge 18:55
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F & W Robertson Edinburgh 18:32
A L Minto Jedburgh 19:25
J McNeil Tranent 19:28
A Miller Edinburgh 19:38; 20:30
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K Cochrane Crossgates 19:02; 08:54
T Nolan & Son Section B 19:12
Lindsay & Henderson Wishaw 19:46
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W Johnstone Carluke 20:25
W Holland Chryston 18:28; 07:55
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Lindsay & Mackie Edinburgh 19:08
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J Alexander Monifieth 20:36
A McNeillie Ayr 20:56
Colligan & Hope Stoneyburn 20:00
Ramage & Jamieson Galashiels 19:17
T W Hopewell Galashiels 19:26
T & G Weir Section D 21:16
S McArdle Forth 20:14; 23:25
P Keogh Broxburn 21:48; 08:14
K Witham Dunbar 22:00
Grant & McGovern Section F 05:17
C Blacklock Jedburgh 06:25
D Gillespie Blantyre 06:34
D Mathieson & Son Coalburn 06:04
G McDonald Section D 08:36
A McBurnie Kilsyth 08:51
J Wilkinson Glenmavis 07:30
T Cram Falkirk 09:14
W Graham Uddingston 08:35; 08:51
Mr and Mrs Duncan Motherwell 09:37
Winter Family Edinburgh 07:25; 09:45
Bald & Wallace Loanhead 10:09
Brown and Black Dalkeith 21:45
J & J Hood Milton of Campsie 10:40
A Woodhouse Peterhead 11.15
M Luke Port Glasgow 11:25
J Quinn Section E 20:06; 07:07
J Currie Old Plean 10:11
R Simpson Gorebridge 11:44
C Barnett & Sons Galashiels 06:15
Re: Red Wattle - almost bleeding.
Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:35 pm
by Buster121
Fair few there King maybe someone just stirring
Re: Red Wattle - almost bleeding.
Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2024 12:12 am
by Murray
I just look at my self. I don't take antibiotics just in case I get sick one day.
As a champion flyer wrote, what you treat them for is what they will get. Antibiotics suppress the symptoms of diseases, but they also suppress the natural ability of the pigeon to fight the illness, while increasing the resistance of the bacteria.
It can become a vicious circle.
I don't use medications much at all. I would if there is an outbreak of a disease in the loft and it was clearly diagnosed. I won't treat every pigeon because one gets sick.