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Re: Geoff Kirkland RIP
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:46 pm
by Trev
king wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:29 pm
MIL wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:22 pm
pest.JPG
The Pest, on the other hand, was always beautiful. He never won a prize as a youngster, nor as a yearling until he got to Angoulême with the MNFC where he was 9th Open.
Then, as a 2y, he won from everywhere, going on to be 1st BBC Nantes and 1st MNFC Angoulême.
Great pigeon. I wonder how many fanciers would have doubts about it with no cards won in it's first 2 years?
Times have certainly changed and people expect more from their yearlings today than they ever used to, I have always been set up for distance racing and never worried too much about what my birds had done up to until they were 2 year olds, still don't really but I have pushed my yearlings harder this year than I ever have before.
Re: Geoff Kirkland RIP
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:50 pm
by George and Morgan
i thought i had posted RIP Geoff
Re: Geoff Kirkland RIP
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 7:53 pm
by Trev
MIL wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 5:22 pm
pest.JPG
The Pest, on the other hand, was always beautiful. He never won a prize as a youngster, nor as a yearling until he got to Angoulême with the MNFC where he was 9th Open.
Then, as a 2y, he won from everywhere, going on to be 1st BBC Nantes and 1st MNFC Angoulême.
I had a Chequer hen back in the 90s who barely even managed to get home in race time as a youngster or yearling, but as 2 year old she scored from Berwick (348mls) and as a 3 year she was 4th club from Berwick, 2nd club from Stonehaven (431mls) and 1st club from Banff (495mls), sadly I lost her in a smash from Elgin the following year.
Re: Geoff Kirkland RIP
Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:41 pm
by MIL
Dad always loved to get his yearling Van Hee's to Saintes (488 mls)
He reckoned a yearling was more dangerous than anything in the basket, cos they never knew where their limits were
Given the success he had with yearlings at 488 and beyond it's hard to argue
Re: Geoff Kirkland RIP
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:09 am
by Steve Howells
MIL wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:41 pm
Dad always loved to get his yearling Van Hee's to Saintes (488 mls)
He reckoned a yearling was more dangerous than anything in the basket, cos they never knew where their limits were
Given the success he had with yearlings at 488 and beyond it's hard to argue
Spot on!! As Geoff once said to me " problem is once they've flown 500mls once they know it hurts"
Re: Geoff Kirkland RIP
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:27 am
by Murray
MIL wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:41 pm
Dad always loved to get his yearling Van Hee's to Saintes (488 mls)
He reckoned a yearling was more dangerous than anything in the basket, cos they never knew where their limits were
Given the success he had with yearlings at 488 and beyond it's hard to argue
And I think your Dad was spot on, Mike. I honestly think a pigeon is as good as it will ever be when it is about 12 months old.
Young, strong, vigorous and unafraid.
They don't get better, they just get older.
Re: Geoff Kirkland RIP
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:43 am
by Albert
R.I.P. Geoff.
Re: Geoff Kirkland RIP
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:14 am
by Trev
MIL wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:41 pm
Dad always loved to get his yearling Van Hee's to Saintes (488 mls)
He reckoned a yearling was more dangerous than anything in the basket, cos they never knew where their limits were
Given the success he had with yearlings at 488 and beyond it's hard to argue
When you look at last weekends results in difficult conditions from the NFC Tarbes race and our race from Kelso there were a lot of yearlings coming through while the older, more experienced birds were down the sheet a bit !!
Re: Geoff Kirkland RIP
Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2024 4:45 pm
by MIL
Murray wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:27 am
MIL wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 9:41 pm
Dad always loved to get his yearling Van Hee's to Saintes (488 mls)
He reckoned a yearling was more dangerous than anything in the basket, cos they never knew where their limits were
Given the success he had with yearlings at 488 and beyond it's hard to argue
And I think your Dad was spot on, Mike. I honestly think a pigeon is as good as it will ever be when it is about 12 months old.
Young, strong, vigorous and unafraid.
They don't get better, they just get older.
I have to agree Murray
"Mad Yearlings" he called em