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Re: Breeding season
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:04 pm
by Spieker-Loft
Devo1956 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:28 pm
Spieker-Loft wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:23 pm
Devo1956 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 5:49 pm
Yes Leon i understand, and it is like what we were talking about. German breeders and flyers have their own thoughts on the type of birds that are a household names over there.
The father is a grandson from „Black power“ from Hardy krüger
The mother is a Double Granddaughter „best Kittel“
I am currently keeping an eye on 4-6 cocks which all auction end in about 4-7 days we will see. we will see if I manage to get one of them. I also want to buy back the pigeon from the German classic that I raced with the 8th on the 2nd hotspot and 70th in the final when it comes to auction in October.
What were the breeding lines of that youngster Leon?
Re: Breeding season
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:29 pm
by Devo1956
Spieker-Loft wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 7:04 pm
Devo1956 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:28 pm
Spieker-Loft wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:23 pm
The father is a grandson from „Black power“ from Hardy krüger
The mother is a Double Granddaughter „best Kittel“
I am currently keeping an eye on 4-6 cocks which all auction end in about 4-7 days we will see. we will see if I manage to get one of them. I also want to buy back the pigeon from the German classic that I raced with the 8th on the 2nd hotspot and 70th in the final when it comes to auction in October.
What were the breeding lines of that youngster Leon?
Oh right i see Leon.
Re: Breeding season
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 2:19 pm
by Devo1956
I found this video on the Pipa site, what you were chatting about Leon.
https://youtu.be/T3BZWIozrbI?si=OT56DmiRkkV33_1P
Re: Breeding season
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:13 pm
by Trev
NeilA wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:32 am
I would just find pigeons that win at the distance I want and try to get as close to the best ones I could .
I would prefer them to win in the uk myself although I know a lot of our winners win abroad first there are other strains that failed in the uk
So a successful loft in the uk at the distance I want no particular strain but also I wouldn’t want pigeons that only win at 1500ypm as on the north we get a lot more headwinds and 1300 ypm races
Ideally you also really want to be looking at UK fliers who are already regularly doing well on the North road as well then wouldn't you Neil ?? Maybe worth looking at some of the NRCC results to see which names are regularly appearing in them mate.
If you're not worried about that then I'd be looking at the likes of the Buddles from Dover or G.M Preece and Son, they do very well across the water.
Re: Breeding season
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:22 pm
by Trev
Devo1956 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 9:15 am
Well it is coming to that time of the year, my question to some members. If you had a choice to bring in some new blood, in your breeding lines. What family of birds would you add.?
I'm still going to focus mostly on the distance races and am aiming to race in the Nationals across the Channel again as well as the North Road with our Club, I'm happy enough with the distance team that I have coming along so won't be looking to introduce anything there next season. I do however want to be a bit more competitive from the shorter races so will hopefully be getting in 3 Lambrecht hens to put to my Alan Still cock birds, and maybe one pair of Lambrechts as well, that will depend on how many of my old birds I decided to say goodbye to.
I also realise that to become more competitive from the short races that I will only do that if I put in more effort as well
I will still be racing everything on the Natural system though.
Re: Breeding season
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 1:07 pm
by NeilA
Trev wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:13 pm
NeilA wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:32 am
I would just find pigeons that win at the distance I want and try to get as close to the best ones I could .
I would prefer them to win in the uk myself although I know a lot of our winners win abroad first there are other strains that failed in the uk
So a successful loft in the uk at the distance I want no particular strain but also I wouldn’t want pigeons that only win at 1500ypm as on the north we get a lot more headwinds and 1300 ypm races
Ideally you also really want to be looking at UK fliers who are already regularly doing well on the North road as well then wouldn't you Neil ?? Maybe worth looking at some of the NRCC results to see which names are regularly appearing in them mate.
If you're not worried about that then I'd be looking at the likes of the Buddles from Dover or G.M Preece and Son, they do very well across the water.
Not really into them races Trev
My cocks will only go to 350 miles other than the odd one , hens may in time go further
Plus I wouldn’t really look to that corner of country for pigeons that win the Bicc international section as no one sends much from any other area plus they sit in the pound seats and most others are doing dead miles as the birds cross there ,now if they were doing it in National flying club regular or Bicc races away from international races then and if I wanted 2 day pigeons that would be different , there be not for me
The nrcc championship club winners are about 100 miles short of me so again possible not the ones either
If I wanted 500-600 mile birds I would just go to Mark Bulled not many to his level the amount of winners from his legacy/ Die hard family is unreal but my interest isn’t that far
For 400 miles I have a few to try some Mike sourced of the Gaby / wijnants base family he raced
My pal Richy Herron has crossed some zwols with the Covid pigeon blood he’s a double unc winner with the zwols so trying a cross and he’s a excellent fancier
Plus another pal is sorting me 6 to add from his old busschaert based pigeon he’s a multi Durham combine winner so them 3 from trusted people I will try
To be honest Mark B has advised how I should feed after 250 miles and did say the pigeons I have will be fine with patience
Re: Breeding season
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:58 pm
by Spieker-Loft
I would really love the get a bird from UK Racing lines over here to germany maybe if george comes over some day with a car he can bring me 1 or 2
Re: Breeding season
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2024 5:02 pm
by Buster121
Spieker-Loft wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2024 4:58 pm
I would really love the get a bird from UK Racing lines over here to germany maybe if george comes over some day with a car he can bring me 1 or 2
Sure he would as well
Re: Breeding season
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:33 am
by MIL
NeilA wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 11:32 am
My pal Richy Herron has crossed some zwols with the Covid pigeon blood he’s a double unc winner with the zwols so trying a cross and he’s a excellent fancier
Great pigeon that "COVID" Neil
Here's his record
"Covid" 17SP15222
Absolute UNC Superstar - look at his racing record
1st Club, 1st Fed, 1st Section, 1st Open UNC Roye 5,390 birds, 2nd Open NEHU Roye (399 miles) 7,586 birds
3rd Open UNC Reims 3,124 birds (455 miles)
124th Open UNC Burbure 4,051 birds (342 miles)
127th Open UNC Burbure 8,025 birds (342 miles)
Re: Breeding season
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2024 6:43 am
by Spieker-Loft
Alright so i have been trying to figure out what our stuff like Club fed etc would be and since i can't exactly since probaly its not quiet the same thing here could someone maybe help me out just with sample size of pigeons what has about how many pigeons
these are the 4 things that we mainly have with their avg pigeons size atleast in my region
Club : depends some have 60 our club is the biggest in the (rv) it has about 300-350 pigeons on the first race of the youngbirds
RV : That is every club combined We started off this year with about 1200~ Youngsters
Regional : That is a collect of RV's for us only occures in old and yearlings because we dont race the youngsters far enough so they dont make a regional list Its about 5000~ On the first Regional race there are 6-8 regional races in total
National : I guess this one is kinda self explanatory since its used in other countrys aswell
Just trying to get a better understanding of the Size of all the different stuff that you have in the UK Like Sections, Fed etc