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king wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:58 pm The first fancier in my club to vaccinate for Paratyphoid was told by a top fancier that vaccination was a must to succeed. He pre treated with Parastop and vaccinated. He to date is the only fancier I know of in my old club that actually GOT Paratyphoid. The same fancier years later vaccinated his YBs one year and had no end of problems with them.

See I know a top level loft that blind treats for it but wouldn’t vaccinate for it

NeilA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 5:02 pm

king wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:58 pm The first fancier in my club to vaccinate for Paratyphoid was told by a top fancier that vaccination was a must to succeed. He pre treated with Parastop and vaccinated. He to date is the only fancier I know of in my old club that actually GOT Paratyphoid. The same fancier years later vaccinated his YBs one year and had no end of problems with them.

See I know a top level loft that blind treats for it but wouldn’t vaccinate for it

I myself can't see the point in that. You can't treat for something they haven't got. If I were treating for Paratyphoid, I'd want to know if they had it?
Blind treatment for worms, canker & coxi is ok, if not overdone. I couldn't treat for canker every couple of weeks like some do when racing.

My own birds are treated for canker (7 day course) 2 weeks before pairing. And that's it till next year. I do have various medications to hand just in case there is a problem (I'm just re-newing them as there all out of date unused)

Why blind treat for canker worms etc king ?

NeilA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 6:06 pm Why blind treat for canker worms etc king ?

I don't Neil. But many do blind treat for worms, canker & coxi.

NeilA wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 4:19 pm Cheers Steve
Could they not be carrying it with no symptoms after a year mixing with god knows what

That's how mine ended up, but I had the outbreak first. Once they are carriers you start to see problems when they're under stress especially when breeding because the youngsters have no immunity. So if you've had no problems personally I think it unlikely you have it in the loft. For a few years I treated then vaccinated, as everyone said you had to treat first, then I ended up just vaccinating, no difference, haven't bothered to do either now for a few years, having said that I wouldn't hesitate to take action if I thought there was an issue. BTW Neil don't think I'm one of those fanciers who's against treating pigeons, or only uses natural products, the microscope is permanently out in the summer.

Cheers Steve very informative