Just got one back!
There's a difference in a bird that returns, after months away. and has been out in the elements, and a bird that has been in, and like you say, the ones that have been in, could just have been down on thier luck, you have to make that judgement as a fancier.
Agree Albert there is a difference from wanting to be away than not having the optionAlbert wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 12:42 pm There's a difference in a bird that returns, after months away. and has been out in the elements, and a bird that has been in, and like you say, the ones that have been in, could just have been down on thier luck, you have to make that judgement as a fancier.
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When I lost this one I let up 2 baskets 10mins apart.
The first basket all home ok. Only got 1 from the 2nd basket sometime late eve. Then only 1 or 2 more over the next 3 days. Had to go to collect one some 2 weeks later from a non fancier which was totally flown down.
This bitd was one of 7 that I lost that day.
He has obviously been in somewhere but he will defo get a 2nd chance.
The first basket all home ok. Only got 1 from the 2nd basket sometime late eve. Then only 1 or 2 more over the next 3 days. Had to go to collect one some 2 weeks later from a non fancier which was totally flown down.
This bitd was one of 7 that I lost that day.
He has obviously been in somewhere but he will defo get a 2nd chance.
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Thank you Bb. He is a problem that I am pleased to have. Its just knowing what to do with him in the meantime.
That's how I look at it too. And I have had one or two stray into my place that have stayed and made decent racers.Bowbroom wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 10:27 am I used to subscribe to the view that late returners would never amount to anything until 1995 when we had a young cock that I fetched back from all over the shop that ent on to win several firsts and was winning into his sixth year, they’re all entitled to a second chance in my view
It's a funny old game.
Greetings from the land down under. 
Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for verily, he shall not be disappointed.

Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for verily, he shall not be disappointed.
Like I said a v perch at the highest point in the loft job doneDiamond Dave wrote: ↑Fri Mar 14, 2025 3:08 pm Thank you Bb. He is a problem that I am pleased to have. Its just knowing what to do with him in the meantime.
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Yes, thanx for that Neil. In terms of "territory" I guess it will be as good as a box
I think soDiamond Dave wrote: ↑Sat Mar 15, 2025 7:59 am Yes, thanx for that Neil. In terms of "territory" I guess it will be as good as a box
I have a spare cock he had a v at the highest point as we know cocks tend to go high up so easy to get him to use it
I changed the v for a small board just enough room for a bowl.I put a piece of ply on the top of the bowl and he stands on that
I took the ply off for 3 days and he was laying on his bowl every time I went in the shed
It’s covered now again to racing starts
So to me it’s his box and I think he thinks the same I believe