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Re: Birds won’t fly
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 3:02 am
by Murray
MIL wrote: ↑Thu Apr 10, 2025 9:47 am
How birds exercise is directly related to how they are fed.
When I raced I raced from No.34 Newman Grove. Between No.21 and No. 36 there were 8 different lofts - so as you can see it was a very intense area and you could easily watch each others birds exercise. Want the sky to yourself? You can forget that for a start!
I used to watch the one loft and I'd think "Jeezus its Tuesday morning and them cocks have had 75 min today" whereas my cocks had about 25 at the most. When I was learning my trade it was quite intimidating. What you have to realise though is that those cocks that had 75 min on the Tuesday were nowhere near the top of the sheet come Saturday. I wanted my cocks to peak on a Saturday. F^ck all is won on a Tuesday
Now, talking as a sprinter like I say you want your birds to peak on a Saturday. Saturday's are all that matters.
The way feed has evolved in the last 25 years has been significant
You can now extract the same (or better) protein from say a maple pea by feeding something more easily digestable
I've 2 sayings.
1. "Peas are Poisonous" (Not literally of course but I mean they no longer are required as part of the diet)
2. "Brown slows you down".
If you want to sprint more or less anything that's brown in the mix isn't required
What about sorghum/milo?
Re: Birds won’t fly
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 6:53 am
by MIL
When I last raced I was racing on Versele-Laga Gerry Plus / Superstar Plus / Champion Plus / and Energy
The ratio's would vary depending on a whole host of circumstances (including distance, projected time on the wing etc)
Versele-Laga never had an ounce of Sorghum / Milo in those feeds
Kinda tells me it's either not required or their benefits are offered more suitably via a different grain
Re: Birds won’t fly
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:46 am
by Murray
Actually, that is not true, is it?
Versele-Laga's Gerry mix contains milo, as do nearly all their mixtures.
I'm just sitting here flicking through my old Versele_Laga catalogue.
Re: Birds won’t fly
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:49 am
by MIL
see below
Re: Birds won’t fly
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:49 am
by NeilA
It’s not a pea though is it ? I could be wrong but brown slows you down was always legumes in my head beans maple peas etc
the saying in the uk refers to them grains Murray
Re: Birds won’t fly
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:53 am
by Murray
MIL wrote: ↑Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:49 amsee below
Red dari. I.e. sorghum/milo. 6%.
Re: Birds won’t fly
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:54 am
by NeilA
I thought the photo was red Dari which may have two names ?
Red Dari is a high carb it’s not a brown pea it’s not a legume from my memory
Re: Birds won’t fly
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:55 am
by NeilA
It’s red though Murray and not a pea
Re: Birds won’t fly
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:58 am
by Murray
Re: Birds won’t fly
Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2025 10:58 am
by NeilA
It’s always been Mung beans in gerry I never can understand
Sold as low protein yet they add a few
Not enough to make much difference it’s still odd to me why they are there
