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Re: For our Aussie friends
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:11 am
by Murray
killer wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 12:25 am
It’s hard to teach an old dog new tricks ,it’s easy to to improve on what stock you may have push them hard ,then breed off the the survivers ,then find the stock birds off them ,most people are to SOFT,,
Yep, I admit to being too soft on them. But i only have them for the enjoyment of it these days.
Back in New Zealand the young birds went every week up to 200 miles then were selected for suitable races. Here if you have any left by the time you get to 200 miles you are doing well......
Re: For our Aussie friends
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:37 am
by Andy
I was certainly a lot tougher back in my early days. But back then you could afford to be. At the end of a season you would be looking to get rid of birds to get the numbers down to your required number. At one time I only had birds in the loft that had either taken a club position in the top 3 or had bred winners. Now you’re lucky to have enough left at the end of the season.
I heard down the club last night that won of the top fanciers in the country has just started training their youngsters. In their first toss they sent 200 and lost 80.
Re: For our Aussie friends
Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:52 am
by Murray
Yep, the biggest problem was deciding which ones to carry over to the following year.
Not now. Now it's trying to get through to the end of each season with some birds still in the shed.

Re: For our Aussie friends
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:26 am
by Murray
Murray wrote: ↑Fri Jun 23, 2023 12:55 am
It's tipping down with rain, the birds have been fed and cleaned out, and are all closed up with the lights on. So it's a good chance to sit and put a few thoughts down about this.
It's not as simple as saying that we race in the winter in Oz., it's a big country, and the climate ranges from tropical up the top end, to cold and wet winters down the south east where I live. In the north winter racing is essential, the heat would be too hard on them in the summer.
In the south, they got into the habit of racing in the winter to avoid the summer heat, but for the last couple of decades at least it has really not needed. The weather has been mild and pleasant well into the spring every year.
I am a little bit different some some blokes around here in that I breed my young birds in the spring and let them go through the moult in the autumn. By now they are mostly up on their 8th or 9th or last flight and are more or less yearlings. Other blokes tend to breed them later in the spring and summer. Then they use the darkness, or more often the lightness system to stop them moulting, One bloke I know has lights on an automatic timer so they have 12 hours of light every day. even though it is the middle of winter.
Many just race them to the perch, as they are still very young. Mine are still all together, and not many of them are showing interest in pairing up. There are 3 or 4 pairs of young birds in the small boxes in the corners paired up and cooing away at each other, but they aren't showing any signs of nesting or anything. In a week when the days start getting longer they will.
There is one little cock bird who was bred in the little stock shed. A few weeks ago he started putting himself back in there and fighting the stock cocks for a nest box.
Then a scruffy little stray turned up and he fell in love with it.

I was forever kicking them out of the shed. In the finish I gave up and put a cardboard box with a nest bowl in it up on top of the stock boxes. in 10 seconds they were in there and he's been good as gold.
I will race him to his card board box and scruffy little hen. He goes good, too. Had all the tosses and been on the drop every time.
We have had two of the very short early races, and I sent that little bloke to both of them. The races have had late releases, so they don't clash with the big Melbourne Federations. Our 100 would be sucked up by the 5000 flying into the city.
First week he came home mid afternoon, and was well off the pace. But he came home. I got 4 from 5, but they were flying down to the south west, and I am the most northerly.
Re: For our Aussie friends
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 10:00 am
by Murray
Last week I sent 8 pigeons, and he hit the board, BANG!
He was way in front of my other pigeons, but, once again, the drag was down to the south of me and he was beaten 23 minutes.
It's pretty hopeless where I am in these short races. They are heading south east from the lib, and swinging back to us in Bendigo. Mine are flying backwards the last bit.
Anyway, the birds are in great condition, and much as I hate having lost so many by training them over and over, what I have is like a football team. I have twenty something fit, trained, professional young athletes.
After I take the feed out in the evening, I go around and put a little bit of seed on the perch of every pigeon. I put my finger under the throat of each one, and they growl and peck my hand.
Apparently there is another member joining in this week. So the drag will be even harder away from me.
I don't know yet what I will do.

Re: For our Aussie friends
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:50 pm
by Buster121
Was returns good, I always struggled with overfly as I was furthest west so birds went over then came back, good to see going well though mate
Re: For our Aussie friends
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2023 9:50 pm
by Andy
I have the same. I am the shortest member in the combine racing from the East to West. Also I’m one of the most southerly which means that any south in the wind I don’t stand much of a chance. Our first 2 races for the youngsters are only 34 miles to me. They will need to break or get dragged way over.
Re: For our Aussie friends
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:08 am
by Murray
Buster121 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:50 pm
Was returns good, I always struggled with overfly as I was furthest west so birds went over then came back, good to see going well though mate
Yes I got 4 out of 5 the first week and 6 out of 8 the second week.
We will always lose pigeons to the falcons.
But crikey, They are in super, super form just now. Seeing as it's still very early.
It is such a joy just being out there with them at present. They are fed as much as they want in the morning, and in the afternoon I can call every pigeon on the place in in a moment.
They are just full of life! Lovely.

Re: For our Aussie friends
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 10:33 am
by Buster121
Murray wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:08 am
Buster121 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 13, 2023 1:50 pm
Was returns good, I always struggled with overfly as I was furthest west so birds went over then came back, good to see going well though mate
Yes I got 4 out of 5 the first week and 6 out of 8 the second week.
We will always lose pigeons to the falcons.
But crikey, They are in super, super form just now. Seeing as it's still very early.
It is such a joy just being out there with them at present. They are fed as much as they want in the morning, and in the afternoon I can call every pigeon on the place in in a moment.
They are just full of life! Lovely.
Well done, great to see the hard work paying off

Re: For our Aussie friends
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:31 pm
by Trev
Well done Muzza, generally a pretty good start for you, as you say your preparation is obviously paying off. Good to see your little bloke is coming along nicely


Well done mate, I hope the rest of the season goes well for you.