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Re: Looks a bit tricky Saturday

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:08 pm
by NeilA
Andy wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 2:34 pm
NeilA wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 12:18 pm If I get it right the box would become a focus what with breeding out of the cocks next year for the first time in years
Can I ask Neil why don’t you breed out of your racing cocks?
In theory these should be superior to what they’re bred out of if your breeding is right. I know some will still be being tested/unproven. But as you know I don’t keep stock birds. The only stock birds I would keep would be retired races, but they would have already proved their breeding quality before being stopped. So for me as much as I’m testing a birds racing ability I’m also testing their future breeding potential.
To bred from the racers, especially if on widowhood, you do have to breed early and split them before re-pairing to sit a second round for 10 days just prior to racing to stop them from starting moulting. My cocks are just dropping their third flights. They have been rearing a round of latebreds which have now been weaned and are back down on pot eggs. They are now starting to fall apart.
Hi Andy
My babies are bred from pigeons with 5/6 fed cards min that I retire at 3 or 4
Of my current team I slip a few eggs under the stock if one dates are close
I never breed from yearlings as yb results are not really much to go on
I race natural ybs so I want them late but I want my cocks in fire early April
So the thought of them pumping ybs late March with all that protein and fat isn’t. For me
I never repair
They go together 10th Jan sit to 10th feb
I have 8 weeks then with them
Every other weekend they have a night together to 3 weeks out from the season

Re: Looks a bit tricky Saturday

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:15 pm
by NeilA
I should add I have a few stock I haven’t raced but I’m ok with
In the future amd I’m heading that way all 8 stock pairs will hand been raced to gain a spot in tne loft
Next year I’m changing things
So 16 pairs to race 8 stock pairs I will slip the eggs under racers and allow the other 8 to rear , I do t want these ybs but I’m trying to race the cock to the box more as I may race a bit further with hens and if I lose a hen I don’t lose his focus so much
If I was sprinting to 200 miles only
I wouldn’t bother to breed I have proved that it’s not required

Re: Looks a bit tricky Saturday

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:50 pm
by NeilA
NeilA wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 3:15 pm I should add I have a few stock I haven’t raced but I’m ok with
In the future amd I’m heading that way all 8 stock pairs will have been raced to gain a spot in the loft
Next year I’m changing things
So 16 pairs to race 8 stock pairs I will slip the eggs under racers and allow the other 8 to rear , I dont want the these ybs but I’m trying to race the cock to the box more as I may race a bit further with hens and if I lose a hen I don’t lose his focus so much
If I was sprinting to 200 miles only
I wouldn’t bother to breed I have proved that it’s not required

Re: Looks a bit tricky Saturday

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:06 pm
by CHARLTON34
Thanks for your reply Mike & explanation.
Regards Dave.

Re: Looks a bit tricky Saturday

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 5:06 pm
by MIL
CHARLTON34 wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 4:06 pm Thanks for your reply Mike & explanation.
Regards Dave.
Pleasure

Re: Looks a bit tricky Saturday

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 6:52 pm
by Andy
Got my last one home today from Saturdays race.

Re: Looks a bit tricky Saturday

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 7:56 pm
by NeilA
Andy wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 6:52 pm Got my last one home today from Saturdays race.
Good
How many do you have left now from the 24 or so ?
I have lost 20 percent but it’s strange as I 50 percent are lost from gifts from people who wanted me to try them out which was kind of them
Of my own I would say 10-15 per cent lost

Re: Looks a bit tricky Saturday

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:32 pm
by Trev
NeilA wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 7:56 pm
Andy wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 6:52 pm Got my last one home today from Saturdays race.
Good
How many do you have left now from the 24 or so ?
I have lost 20 percent but it’s strange as I 50 percent are lost from gifts from people who wanted me to try them out which was kind of them
Of my own I would say 10-15 per cent lost
Much the same for me Neil, most of the birds I've bred from my original stock are still here, it's the new introductions I'm losing !!

Re: Looks a bit tricky Saturday

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:32 pm
by Trev
Andy wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 6:52 pm Got my last one home today from Saturdays race.
Good news Andy

Re: Looks a bit tricky Saturday

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:57 pm
by NeilA
Trev wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:32 pm
NeilA wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 7:56 pm
Andy wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 6:52 pm Got my last one home today from Saturdays race.
Good
How many do you have left now from the 24 or so ?
I have lost 20 percent but it’s strange as I 50 percent are lost from gifts from people who wanted me to try them out which was kind of them
Of my own I would say 10-15 per cent lost
Much the same for me Neil, most of the birds I've bred from my original stock are still here, it's the new introductions I'm losing !!
Kind of people to give them but I gave 8 lovely babies away to make room , you live and learn but the people meant well
Is it being born in the loft ? Maybe that’s why one lofts have such massive loses