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Bowbroom wrote: ↑Sat Feb 08, 2025 1:51 pm Some on here do want to see the demise of the RPRA as they have a deep seated hatred, just reread this thread and you will discover who.
All that is immaterial though, the voting on the 28th will determine how the association is run in the immediate future either by a continuation of Council or by an executive of 5 people. Either way the RPRA will carry on.
To pick up on your point about accountability, however tortuous it appears to some, under the current system there is a way for members to make their thoughts and feelings known, I’m uncertain how it will work If the management is vested in an executive committee, still we will find out if it happens I guess.
By the way I’m not a Councillor.
ATB

Hey Bowbroom, thanks for staying with us.
You admit that accountability is somewhat tortuous. For somone who uses their words carefully, I would say that is quite a strong description of the system
Following my own recent experience which you yourself recommended to me I would certainly go along with that and add a few more adjectives such as arduous and laborious and the important one which I dont have a word for is "open to persuasion by others"
So by your reckoning, if there is a continuation of council nothing will change.
So, if you are not a current councillor, can I assume that you have been, which I don't have any problem with anyway providing you were not involved with chucking out the Hall report because the councillors conducting that decision were not just ",open to persuasion" they were positively corrupt.
I wonder if you would consider that to be a way forward?

Please don’t misconstrue what I said, that’s the way to the creation of contentious issues in the future, I said that some find the way tortuous, some find it unacceptably hard work to walk to the local shops and are only too delighted to let someone go for them.
Please enlighten us how we could communicate our concerns to the hierarchy easier and quicker than is possible now? Will we be able to call, txt or e mail the decision makers directly? I suspect that will never be the case and some procedure will have to be followed eg if you have an issue of serious concern to you in the area where you live do you think that you should have the authority to lay a question to parliament? Of course not, there are channels to be followed like it or not.
If the exec committee was to come into being, how do you think you would be able to do it.
As far as the Hall report is concerned, unless I’ve misread them, the propositions to be determined in essence represent the main thrust of that report with the additional erasing of the regions who currently are the first resort to raise queries / concerns.
The only way changes can be made is through the procedures contained within the Constitution as you must realise by your submission of your current proposals.

Don't think the South West Region follow the procedure's at all within the Constitution, that's just self preservation at it worst, & I would say after getting the RPRA proposal past in favour with the East Midlands only to have another vote & vote against, how can that be constitional or legal.

So Bowbroom, I dont mean to be ageist but the above post is just so typical of the age group that you and the rest of the council and region officers represent.
It is after all 2025 and businesses, solicitors, insurance and just about everyone else use and run on e.mails, texts and automation. All that is except the RPRA!!!
So we really do not need the current tortuous arduous laborious route that will continue if council continues - surely you can appreciate that.
The thing is, we are only discussing one process here, and most things within that one process could be resolved more or less instantly.
There are so many other things that could be improved so easily by similar modernisation but only if you open yourself up to it and it seems that the current ceo and his councillors and region reps are totally blind to the obvious.
Perhaps you could justify thier reasoning or maybe you fall in to that category too?

I’m afraid that I can only conclude that for whatever reason you are choosing to deliberately misunderstand me, so it’s good night from me
ATB

Ahh sorry mate, honestly wouldnt dream of doing anything like that or anything that would offend or insult.
Your intellect and your language is totally different from mine. I have read your post again and cant for the life of me see what I have misunderstood?
I guess I'm a bit of a luddite.
TBH, I will be glad when all this politics is over and we can just get to enjoy talking pigeons again. I'd hope that we might be on the same level then.
I can imagine everyone else on this site is fed up with it all too.
Probably is a good time to draw a line under this thread, there is nothing either of us can do to change anything now anyway.
ATB.

I am hearing that the SW region and the WM regions have voted in favour of a new look RPRA - can anyone confirm this.....?

Diamond Dave wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 10:21 pm I am hearing that the SW region and the WM regions have voted in favour of a new look RPRA - can anyone confirm this.....?

I can confirm the West Midlands region voted in favour

I can confirm on last night's S West region meeting that the delegate will vote in favour on the 28th with the Welsh & W Midlands regions vote to adopt the rule changes put forward but Ian Evans recently.

So despite some peoples thoughts, the SW region have made sure that their members have been able to vote on the proposals, good on them