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Re: Respiratory
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:36 pm
by MIL
So there's potentially 2 birds with this mild crackle?
Have they only just developed this do you think or is it that they might have had it longer?
Re: Respiratory
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:20 pm
by NeilA
MIL wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:36 pm
So there's potentially 2 birds with this mild crackle?
Have they only just developed this do you think or is it that they might have had it longer?
I’m not sure
I just going over them and thought I would just put the wattle right close to my ear I can hear it in two of the 12 I handled
Re: Respiratory
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 4:56 pm
by Mark69
Very interesting topic
Re: Respiratory
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:11 pm
by MIL
As you know Neil, I fall into the category of treating proactively as opposed to reactively.
I don't want to wait for a poor performance before treating, and I certainly wouildn't "wait and see"
Having said that, I wouldn't rush to treat blind - I treat for what I consider to be either a problem, or something that is of benefit to the birds
Before diving into a treatment what I'd really recommend doing is getting in the loft tonight when its dark and just sit there quiet for a bit
If the birds have got respiratory then there WILL be scratching/sneezing going on
If you hear it, then you know there's a problem
Anotherr indicator is watcing the height that the birds exercise at - the higher the better.
Which treatment to give is actually pretty simple from my chair
Re: Respiratory
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:19 pm
by king
MIL wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:11 pm
As you know Neil, I fall into the category of treating proactively as opposed to reactively.
I don't want to wait for a poor performance before treating, and I certainly wouildn't "wait and see"
Having said that, I wouldn't rush to treat blind - I treat for what I consider to be either a problem, or something that is of benefit to the birds
Before diving into a treatment what I'd really recommend doing is getting in the loft tonight when its dark and just sit there quiet for a bit
If the birds have got respiratory then there WILL be scratching/sneezing going on
If you hear it, then you know there's a problem
Anotherr indicator is watcing the height that the birds exercise at - the higher the better.
Which treatment to give is actually pretty simple from my chair
Even though I don't race now I still listen to the birds on a night usually when letting the dog out for the last time before bed around 1am.
Re: Respiratory
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:44 pm
by NeilA
MIL wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:11 pm
As you know Neil, I fall into the category of treating proactively as opposed to reactively.
I don't want to wait for a poor performance before treating, and I certainly wouildn't "wait and see"
Having said that, I wouldn't rush to treat blind - I treat for what I consider to be either a problem, or something that is of benefit to the birds
Before diving into a treatment what I'd really recommend doing is getting in the loft tonight when its dark and just sit there quiet for a bit
If the birds have got respiratory then there WILL be scratching/sneezing going on
If you hear it, then you know there's a problem
Anotherr indicator is watcing the height that the birds exercise at - the higher the better.
Which treatment to give is actually pretty simple from my chair
Ok mate I haven’t seen the scratching actions but from memory there was 2/3 sneeze once when I put yellow drops up the wattle which they don’t do from memory
I will do as you say but they flying high
This week maybe not so high two weeks back
I can’t see no feathers sticking out from the ears definitely no dull greasy wattles or discharge
Re: Respiratory
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:49 pm
by NeilA
So if no sneezing or scratching but still the crackling when the heads pulled back what’s the cracking and why in some not all
Re: Respiratory
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:50 pm
by NeilA
king wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:19 pm
MIL wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:11 pm
As you know Neil, I fall into the category of treating proactively as opposed to reactively.
I don't want to wait for a poor performance before treating, and I certainly wouildn't "wait and see"
Having said that, I wouldn't rush to treat blind - I treat for what I consider to be either a problem, or something that is of benefit to the birds
Before diving into a treatment what I'd really recommend doing is getting in the loft tonight when its dark and just sit there quiet for a bit
If the birds have got respiratory then there WILL be scratching/sneezing going on
If you hear it, then you know there's a problem
Anotherr indicator is watcing the height that the birds exercise at - the higher the better.
Which treatment to give is actually pretty simple from my chair
Even though I don't race now I still listen to the birds on a night usually when letting the dog out for the last time before bed around 1am.
1am king
I’m out cold by 1030 latest

Re: Respiratory
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:55 pm
by MIL
Some pigeons might be more prone to "crackle" than others by their nature, hence why I asked if this was a new phenomenon to them
No feathers ruffled around the ears is a good sign - pigeons with respiratory issues often portray their feathers around their ears with respiratory
The exercise is another key thing to observe... Pigeons suffering with respiratory do not exercise at great height.
Re: Respiratory
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 6:54 pm
by NeilA
MIL wrote: ↑Wed Jun 19, 2024 5:55 pm
Some pigeons might be more prone to "crackle" than others by their nature, hence why I asked if this was a new phenomenon to them
No feathers ruffled around the ears is a good sign - pigeons with respiratory issues often portray their feathers around their ears with respiratory
The exercise is another key thing to observe... Pigeons suffering with respiratory do not exercise at great height.
So I could be overthinking this a bit ?
Not like me is it
