UkPigeonRacing

Albert wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:49 am I suppose letting them come home to a shut loft, and let them in for their reward, is out of the question ?. You may have to pick the best from a bad bunch, including running the Gauntlet.

NeilA wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:26 pm If you do the pigeons totally on your own and you train or you want to train soon in small groups of say 5 birds from a team of 30 so 6 libs
How do you reward the birds on return
Obviously the first ones to feed but the later ones what’s there reward ?
I thought of dupurative left in the tray then the later ones will more than likely just find barley so not a great reward

Any ideas or methods anyone can suggest

Steve Howells wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:13 am

NeilA wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:26 pm If you do the pigeons totally on your own and you train or you want to train soon in small groups of say 5 birds from a team of 30 so 6 libs
How do you reward the birds on return
Obviously the first ones to feed but the later ones what’s there reward ?
I thought of dupurative left in the tray then the later ones will more than likely just find barley so not a great reward

Any ideas or methods anyone can suggest

With the upmost respect Neil you're missing the woods for the trees as they say. When your pigeons come home generally, what's the first thing they do or certainly within the first few seconds?

Steve Howells wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:13 am

NeilA wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:26 pm If you do the pigeons totally on your own and you train or you want to train soon in small groups of say 5 birds from a team of 30 so 6 libs
How do you reward the birds on return
Obviously the first ones to feed but the later ones what’s there reward ?
I thought of dupurative left in the tray then the later ones will more than likely just find barley so not a great reward

Any ideas or methods anyone can suggest

With the upmost respect Neil you're missing the woods for the trees as they say. When your pigeons come home generally, what's the first thing they do or certainly within the first few seconds?

Andy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:18 am

Steve Howells wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:13 am

NeilA wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:26 pm If you do the pigeons totally on your own and you train or you want to train soon in small groups of say 5 birds from a team of 30 so 6 libs
How do you reward the birds on return
Obviously the first ones to feed but the later ones what’s there reward ?
I thought of dupurative left in the tray then the later ones will more than likely just find barley so not a great reward

Any ideas or methods anyone can suggest

With the upmost respect Neil you're missing the woods for the trees as they say. When your pigeons come home generally, what's the first thing they do or certainly within the first few seconds?

A good point there Steve. I would say they should trap as wanting to be back in the loft.
I know it’s a bit different with youngsters but I never trap my widowhood cocks with food. The trap because they want to get back into their box. Food is a second thought for them and not given until I’m ready.

NeilA wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:38 am

Steve Howells wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:13 am

NeilA wrote: ↑Wed Jul 10, 2024 6:26 pm If you do the pigeons totally on your own and you train or you want to train soon in small groups of say 5 birds from a team of 30 so 6 libs
How do you reward the birds on return
Obviously the first ones to feed but the later ones what’s there reward ?
I thought of dupurative left in the tray then the later ones will more than likely just find barley so not a great reward

Any ideas or methods anyone can suggest

With the upmost respect Neil you're missing the woods for the trees as they say. When your pigeons come home generally, what's the first thing they do or certainly within the first few seconds?

Ear and Drink from a race
I do t know from training as I’m never home but the foods all gone when I get home

Steve Howells wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:47 am

NeilA wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:38 am

Steve Howells wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:13 am

With the upmost respect Neil you're missing the woods for the trees as they say. When your pigeons come home generally, what's the first thing they do or certainly within the first few seconds?

Ear and Drink from a race
I do t know from training as I’m never home but the foods all gone when I get home

Mine nearly always grab a quick drink first.

Andy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:26 am I can see you are very keen to do your best Neil and admire your thinking and desire. But you are in a difficult position having to do it on your own. I do think you’re overthinking and worrying unnecessarily. I don’t think they will fly any faster, or slower, if you’re waiting for them or not. I know your thinking about them trapping as soon as they return but I don’t think they will trap any slower on a race day when you’re there especially if your trapping is good when exercising. They know that your call is their signal to trap.
So if you want to train in small groups I would probably just leave the trap open for their return and don’t put any food down. Just reward them with their feed when you get home.
I might be wrong but that is my thinking Neil.

Andy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:26 am I can see you are very keen to do your best Neil and admire your thinking and desire. But you are in a difficult position having to do it on your own. I do think you’re overthinking and worrying unnecessarily. I don’t think they will fly any faster, or slower, if you’re waiting for them or not. I know your thinking about them trapping as soon as they return but I don’t think they will trap any slower on a race day when you’re there especially if your trapping is good when exercising. They know that your call is their signal to trap.
So if you want to train in small groups I would probably just leave the trap open for their return and don’t put any food down. Just reward them with their feed when you get home.
I might be wrong but that is my thinking Neil.