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MIL wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:04 pm So, no disrespect to Marley here King, but just to clarify your comments

You say My birds are based on birds that WON

Did Marley ever "Win" an Open at Classic/National/NRCC level?

I ask as I do not know but you emphasised the word WON
His birds won in club/Fed/Sections in National. What's your point Mike?
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NeilA wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:30 pm The 15 Lerwick wins were in his section of the nrcc I believe ?
I don’t think his south rd performance were that impressive when you look at M bulled at tarbes over the years flying not to far short of Marley
I'm sure there are many fanciers that have better performances than Marley.
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king wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:38 pm
MIL wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:04 pm So, no disrespect to Marley here King, but just to clarify your comments

You say My birds are based on birds that WON

Did Marley ever "Win" an Open at Classic/National/NRCC level?

I ask as I do not know but you emphasised the word WON
His birds won in club/Fed/Sections in National. What's your point Mike?

You said your birds were basedv on birds that won - and you stressed the word WON

To me, Section winners are birds that win their Section, but with respect they aren't "Winners" - that's my point

I guess we just set the bar in different places.
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king wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:43 pm
NeilA wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:30 pm The 15 Lerwick wins were in his section of the nrcc I believe ?
I don’t think his south rd performance were that impressive when you look at M bulled at tarbes over the years flying not to far short of Marley
I'm sure there are many fanciers that have better performances than Marley.
Yes
I picked Mark as he’s not a million miles from Stotfold. So a comparison
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Fair point

And as you well know Neil, people are pinging in big time performances very regularly (including 1st Open BICC etc in 2024) with the Bulled blood
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MIL wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:00 pm Fair point

And as you well know Neil, people are pinging in big time performances very regularly (including 1st Open BICC etc in 2024) with the Bulled blood
That’s my thoughts
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Being a fancier from the South one thing I will say is that there is a lot of dog legging, dead time flying put in by a lot of the pigeons down this way not giving a true indication of how many miles that have actually flown. This doesn’t really happen to much with the longer flying northern flyers. It doesn’t matter so much where along the coast the hit land they are still flying north. If for example in a south west wind our birds from down this way hit land in the South East they would then have to fly 100+ miles along the coast against the wind and all in dead time.
Back just enjoying club racing for the time being.
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Andy wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:27 pm Being a fancier from the South one thing I will say is that there is a lot of dog legging, dead time flying put in by a lot of the pigeons down this way not giving a true indication of how many miles that have actually flown. This doesn’t really happen to much with the longer flying northern flyers. It doesn’t matter so much where along the coast the hit land they are still flying north. If for example in a south west wind our birds from down this way hit land in the South East they would then have to fly 100+ miles along the coast against the wind and all in dead time.
Like the padfields in the Bicc races compared to Kent
There must have been many times there birds crossed two hours ahead only to be beat
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MIL wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:46 pm
king wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:38 pm
MIL wrote: Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:04 pm So, no disrespect to Marley here King, but just to clarify your comments

You say My birds are based on birds that WON

Did Marley ever "Win" an Open at Classic/National/NRCC level?

I ask as I do not know but you emphasised the word WON
His birds won in club/Fed/Sections in National. What's your point Mike?

You said your birds were basedv on birds that won - and you stressed the word WON

To me, Section winners are birds that win their Section, but with respect they aren't "Winners" - that's my point

I guess we just set the bar in different places.
Where you set the bar Mike is up to you. But how do you feel about winners of 2B or Gold rings? Are they winners? A well known friend of yours claimed them as National wins?
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Nice deflection King - it's taken you a while to think of that

In my eyes they aren't "winners"

There's a convoy, there's a liberation, there's a winner

Simples

And as it happens, the birds of Mark Evans (who I assume you're referring to) have won many a true National as you may know

In fact, the 1st Open NFC Tarbes of 2024 is of Mark's bloodlines

Maybe that floats your boat enough?
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