What a Line of Pigeon this was

[PeteDerby]

I think if I flew 500-700
I would look at 2/3 strains
The Marshall pigeons look excellent my mate Mark Bulleds family and something like Gaby that can still do it. It also give you fun on the races leading to the target races
Mark has distance pigeons but he has told me he had slight variations in his family that he gets from 450-500 in certain maybe faster days then his other family that will fly all day and go again at 1100/1200

Thank you. I will check these out

[PeteDerby]

the cock from the pair i bought as ybs 13 years ago still have the cock not filling eggs now free to a good home give all ybs from him away

I’ve been reading a lot about this line. Seem very successful. Can I ask why you gave all of his offspring away and do you know if they performed for those you gave them to?

[MIL]

Those 3 cocks I metioned above were all superstars in every way

Great racers and they've left a legacy of winners behind them including 1st Open NFC and 1st Open UNC (both from France)

Buying Direct from them is not easy - I "think" only "Big Smithy" is alive now out of the 3 (but stand corrected)

For sure though Direct children of them become available rather rarely

If you're lucky you can pick up G.Children of them for around the £100 mark

In September 2023 I sold a G.Daughter of "BIG SMITHY" and "MUKIN FAGIC" for £110 - That struck me as being a good buy


Goose1 on here has some very good distance pigeons - inlcuding pigeons carrying the lines mentioned above as well as Mark Bulled's best lines and Alwyn Hill's best pigeons. He'd be a good place to start your enquiries I would say.

[Steve Howells]

Those 3 cocks I metioned above were all superstars in every way

Great racers and they've left a legacy of winners behind them including 1st Open NFC and 1st Open UNC (both from France)

Buying Direct from them is not easy - I "think" only "Big Smithy" is alive now out of the 3 (but stand corrected)

For sure though Direct children of them become available rather rarely

If you're lucky you can pick up G.Children of them for around the £100 mark

In September 2023 I sold a G.Daughter of "BIG SMITHY" and "MUKIN FAGIC" for £110 - That struck me as being a good buy


Goose1 on here has some very good distance pigeons - inlcuding pigeons carrying the lines mentioned above as well as Mark Bulled's best lines and Alwyn Hill's best pigeons. He'd be a good place to start your enquiries I would say.

I think I'm right in saying they had a lot of Marcel Albrecht in them. I had 10 off Marcel before everyone went crazy for them and started adding a lot of 0's onto the price he wanted, they could do a turn on the short races but really came into their own at the distance. They were beautiful pigeons to boot!!

[MIL]

You're right Steve

You can read all about the breeding of "The Machine" here

Don't forget the presence of Brockamp's superb "Euro Diamond" too

https://www.pipa.be/en/articles/mrs-ter ... pion-23541

[George and Morgan]

the cock from the pair i bought as ybs 13 years ago still have the cock not filling eggs now free to a good home give all ybs from him away

I’ve been reading a lot about this line. Seem very successful. Can I ask why you gave all of his offspring away and do you know if they performed for those you gave them to?

no one every told me even Dev this was his bird of him

[PeteDerby]

Those 3 cocks I metioned above were all superstars in every way

Great racers and they've left a legacy of winners behind them including 1st Open NFC and 1st Open UNC (both from France)

Buying Direct from them is not easy - I "think" only "Big Smithy" is alive now out of the 3 (but stand corrected)

For sure though Direct children of them become available rather rarely

If you're lucky you can pick up G.Children of them for around the £100 mark

In September 2023 I sold a G.Daughter of "BIG SMITHY" and "MUKIN FAGIC" for £110 - That struck me as being a good buy


Goose1 on here has some very good distance pigeons - inlcuding pigeons carrying the lines mentioned above as well as Mark Bulled's best lines and Alwyn Hill's best pigeons. He'd be a good place to start your enquiries I would say.

Thank you very much for your advice

[PeteDerby]

the cock from the pair i bought as ybs 13 years ago still have the cock not filling eggs now free to a good home give all ybs from him away

I’ve been reading a lot about this line. Seem very successful. Can I ask why you gave all of his offspring away and do you know if they performed for those you gave them to?

no one every told me even Dev this was his bird of him

Very nice

[MIL]

Sorry Pete

I'm a bugger for assuming people know what I know, but if you've been away from the game you might not know this

"Euro Diamond" is one of the best pigeons in the last 25 years

A great racer he's gone on to breed numerous 1st National and International winners

Here was his racing record at International level

He was some pigeon




“Euro Diamond” who won 100% prizes with 7/7 in the International races:

1st National Carcassonne 2.719 p. 06 2nd International Carcassonne 10.323 p. 06

3rd National Perpignan 1.452 p. 06 5th International Perpignan 14.900 p. 06

4th National Bergerac 1.320 p. 05 5th International Bergerac 3.180 p. 05

5th National Perpignan 2.020 p. 05 12th International Perpignan 17.654 p. 05

9th National Marseille 3.575 p. 05 21st International Marseille13.930 p. 05

23rd National Perpignan 2.210 p. 04 567th International Perpignan 17.570 p. 04

58th National Marseille 4.928 p. 04 281st International Marseille 19.627 p. 04 etc...

[goose1]

First thing I would say with distance pigeons, in my opinion is you've got to have speed in there. Putting slow pigeons to slow pigeons just breed slow pigeons. Since we went into the distance pigeons we haven't really been able to test them as we would have liked due to covid and Brexit. But this year we got back into France for only the second time in 5 years we were first and second combine (combine entry was low) but we were liberated with the Scottish National Flying Club, were around 28 mile short of their boundary but had we been able to compete our winning hen would have won the national by 18ypm our second bird flying 13hrs 53 mins would have been 6th national. Both these pigeons were 75% of what you'd call distance blood but crossed in with faster pigeons. In fact the winner was 5th combine 189 mile 3 weeks before the win at 497 mile. To me no matter what the distance you want racing pigeons. Due to not being able to test them at the distance for a few year we started to cross them with some faster pigeons we brought in and feel we now have pigeons we can work with and we will hopefully be pushing on to Pau NFC at 800 mile.