Medicating pigeons in the race season.

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worm wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:02 pm lad in Ireland is agent for them they passed me on to him
So with the tdc I take it you never needed to canker in the seaso.
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I never did ... on tdc for a week before training started then day after race as instructed I did do another week mid season then back to day after
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worm wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:54 am I never did ... on tdc for a week before training started then day after race as instructed I did do another week mid season then back to day after
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NeilA wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:09 pm
worm wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:02 pm lad in Ireland is agent for them they passed me on to him
So with the tdc I take it you never needed to canker in the seaso.
TDC is a combination of Ronidazole for canker, Amprolium for cocci, Tylosin for paratyphoid and Tiamulin for resparitory.
So, yes, if you use it you are treating for canker. Nothing wrong with that but rather than not treating for canker, you are in fact treating for canker every week.
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Murray wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:55 pm
NeilA wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:09 pm
worm wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:02 pm lad in Ireland is agent for them they passed me on to him
So with the tdc I take it you never needed to canker in the seaso.
TDC is a combination of Ronidazole for canker, Amprolium for cocci, Tylosin for paratyphoid and Tiamulin for resparitory.
So, yes, if you use it you are treating for canker. Nothing wrong with that but rather than not treating for canker, you are in fact treating for canker every week.
What I would like to understand is if you use one spoon of tdc how can that be the same as using each product individually as they would all be similar dose but combined be say 4 spoons
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NeilA wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:01 pm
Murray wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:55 pm
NeilA wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2024 9:09 pm

So with the tdc I take it you never needed to canker in the seaso.
TDC is a combination of Ronidazole for canker, Amprolium for cocci, Tylosin for paratyphoid and Tiamulin for resparitory.
So, yes, if you use it you are treating for canker. Nothing wrong with that but rather than not treating for canker, you are in fact treating for canker every week.
What I would like to understand is if you use one spoon of tdc how can that be the same as using each product individually as they would all be similar dose but combined be say 4 spoons
That's simple.
To ensure you can give an accurate amount of a medication they put a small amount of it in a large amount of a harmless powder. For example Turbosole is 12% Ronidozole and 88% base powder. To give the correct amount you might use 1 teaspoonful in a litre of water, or whatever.
With these 4 in 1 products they put a small amount of each medication in the same amount of powder. So, 1 teaspoonful has the correct amount of 4 medicines instead of 1.
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Seems a lot of hassle when they could just advise a lower dose in the single treatment tubs and not have to use different strengths but I guess that’s how they do it
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worm wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 8:54 am I never did ... on tdc for a week before training started then day after race as instructed I did do another week mid season then back to day after
Did you do the stock birds on it before pairing or in eggs ? If at all that is
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no I canker with whatever while sitting and worm them every year but I try not to give stock to much meds and touch wood I've never had much trouble
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Murray wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 11:35 pm
NeilA wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 10:01 pm
Murray wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2024 9:55 pm

TDC is a combination of Ronidazole for canker, Amprolium for cocci, Tylosin for paratyphoid and Tiamulin for resparitory.
So, yes, if you use it you are treating for canker. Nothing wrong with that but rather than not treating for canker, you are in fact treating for canker every week.
What I would like to understand is if you use one spoon of tdc how can that be the same as using each product individually as they would all be similar dose but combined be say 4 spoons
That's simple.
To ensure you can give an accurate amount of a medication they put a small amount of it in a large amount of a harmless powder. For example Turbosole is 12% Ronidozole and 88% base powder. To give the correct amount you might use 1 teaspoonful in a litre of water, or whatever.
With these 4 in 1 products they put a small amount of each medication in the same amount of powder. So, 1 teaspoonful has the correct amount of 4 medicines instead of 1.
doctor sluis recommended today that that tdc is not the same as treating with one of there products
for the actual issue if the is a problem with canker treat for it with a canker product
So to me that means tdc is more mild than a direct product
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