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Re: Thoughts on pop corn maize
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:28 pm
by NeilA
Diamond Dave wrote: ↑Thu Feb 20, 2025 12:21 pm
Every day is a school day on this site.
I did google it Neil and unsurprisingly discovered that popcorn maize is just that, it is maize that has been prepared for making popcorn, so it is actually dried to 14% moisture content and then polished - Im guessing you all already knew that anyway.
I am a cabinet maker and I know that 12 -14% is the same as kiln dried hardwood.
So I can see why ppl want to soak it before feeding but I would imagine that soaking it would take much longer due to the polishing process. - Would overnight be enough, I dont know!
Now I am no nutritionist but TBH I would have to ask if there is any feed value left in it because it would be like feeding wood.
I dont think I would want it in a distance mix somehow.
Imagine soaking it each day for 20 cocks or 20 plus babies
You just wouldn’t bother to buy it would you when there is so much other choice
Re: Thoughts on pop corn maize
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:17 pm
by MIL
NeilA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 17, 2025 8:36 am
What’s people views on popcorn maize
Anthony Webster use to tell me he would never touch it as it was so slow to break down compared to other varieties so I have kept clear of it but it does seem popular in a lot of mixtures
Would you avoid a mixture with it in ?
Been giving this some thought Neil
It does seem like there's more mixtures with popcorn maize added now - but i'm with Anthony on this one
So in direct answer to your question I think yea, if I were still racing it'd bother me with the popcorn so I'd stay away from it
Re: Thoughts on pop corn maize
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:23 pm
by NeilA
Seems little value in buying it
Re: Thoughts on pop corn maize
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 1:47 pm
by MIL
For me there's none
Re: Thoughts on pop corn maize
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 2:05 pm
by MIL
Have you seen the new pellet formula that V-L are using?
If I were sprinting now I think I'd be inclined to run with this
https://www.versele-laga.com/en/de/for- ... usic-gerry
To go a bit "richer" this is nice
https://www.versele-laga.com/en/de/for- ... rwidowhood
Re: Thoughts on pop corn maize
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:08 pm
by NeilA
Re: Thoughts on pop corn maize
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:12 pm
by NeilA
I use to go 2 gerry 1 barley all week
Then 1 gerry 1 super widowhood late in the week
Now I end the week with VL energy with Gerry as the end of week Gerry 3 energy 1
Re: Thoughts on pop corn maize
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:52 pm
by MIL
In 2005 I made the switch from V-L "Prestige" across to V-L "Gerry Plus" and "Superstar Plus"
In theory the Prestige was a much stronger mix, and I used it with success out to 381 miles (never went further than that) but ironically I'd be winning very fast very short races on Prestige too
I recall the 2003 season
Gareth Gates won Race 1 at 1952ypm from 106 miles against 5,129 birds
Donovan won Race 2 at 1766ypm from 106 miles against 5,663 birds
If I were racing now I think I'd go lighter still (assuming i'm only racing short and sharp distances)
Re: Thoughts on pop corn maize
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 3:58 pm
by NeilA
Lighter easy to digest fats in place of proteins on a high carb base is what I think is the best way
Re: Thoughts on pop corn maize
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2025 5:06 pm
by MIL
Yes, that's why I say if I was racing now I'd go lighter
Feeding innovations continue to develop