UkPigeonRacing

king wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 4:13 pm

NeilA wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 3:52 pm

king wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 3:38 pm

Even so Neil surely fanciers flying in these 2B noms in clubs will be sending their best birds? My old club had a 2B Nom and you had too card in the club to stand any chance of winning the 2B. The 2B Club did highlight those fanciers who could pick their best birds out. A few in my old club did say at the start that it was just a way for a few prize cards for those further down the result. But that didn't happen, you had to have a decent bird to get a 2B card. I recall being 10 mins clear at Provins 418 miles winning both the 2B & the Club.

What I said king was if my club had a 2bird and I won it and it was part of a club race where I finished say 10th I would think what a shit race I have had

But that's maybe only you? Fanciers have no problems winning pools further down the result? why should a nom or 2B race be different? We have a Rose Bowel we fly for in the longest YB race, raced for since the 1940s it's a 2B Nom with the prize money going to winner. It's a cup that everybody still wants to win. It's sometimes won by the race winner but often won by a bird further down the result. When I first won it I was only 6th club.

Good for you but it wouldn’t interest me I would only take part so fanciers who can’t win get some fun as I think it’s shit like I said

NeilA wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 4:19 pm

king wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 4:13 pm

NeilA wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 3:52 pm

What I said king was if my club had a 2bird and I won it and it was part of a club race where I finished say 10th I would think what a shit race I have had

But that's maybe only you? Fanciers have no problems winning pools further down the result? why should a nom or 2B race be different? We have a Rose Bowel we fly for in the longest YB race, raced for since the 1940s it's a 2B Nom with the prize money going to winner. It's a cup that everybody still wants to win. It's sometimes won by the race winner but often won by a bird further down the result. When I first won it I was only 6th club.

Good for you but it wouldn’t interest me I would only take part so fanciers who can’t win get some fun as I think it’s shit like I said

I understand your view Neil, but it's not always those who can't win race that win pools, noms, 2B ect? Top fanciers also win these, but not maybe with their first bird? I've NEVER known a fancier either good or bad NOT accept pool money or a 2B position that he has won further down the result?
I'm sure many fanciers who send a large team would like the winner takes it all approach. But that is why these noms, 2B are there, to give everybody an EQUAL chance of winning it? If somebody has a bird come before a nom bird it's because they couldn't pick what would be there first bird.
But I see your point, why you would think you had a bad race winning the nom and finishing 10th club, but it could be worst, you could finish 10th club and win nothing

Never pool either king it doesn’t interest me to be honest I’m not really into pigeons for that
If we had a nom I would go in it as it helps the club but I would put no value to it

The pools in the nationals is rarely won by the winner of the race. Pool money is often a lot more than the prize money for winning the race. We have a nom in our club. It’s for £10 each week out of club funds. One nom per member.