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Re: Yb training

Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:15 pm
by NeilA
Andy wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:27 pm
NeilA wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:00 pm
Andy wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:15 am

I agree. I have been racing just 10 widowhood cocks this year and are finding it much more enjoyable than when I was racing 3 x that number on natural. I only have a team of 15 youngsters but will breed a few late breds once the old birds have finished. I don’t have any stock birds. I only need 4 young cocks left at present and the young hens will be kept depending on their breeding.
When you say you only need 4 is that after severe killing or you have 4 box’s spare
Yes Neil I admit that that is the number of boxes I have spare at the moment. 5 of the 8 cocks I have here have all been first bird this year. 2 of the other 3 haven’t been far behind. 1 has been only beaten by a loft mate on two occasions. I know they’re not setting the world on fire but fairly happy with them at present. They haven’t had the chance to prove anything yet. If I feel some aren’t worth keeping at the end of the year they will go even if leaving empt6 perches.
Trouble is with that race programme and you explaining the reason behind the team with distance in mind etc I can’t see how you can expect them to win regularly to you get to say 250 miles which you can’t get to
I wish you luck as you have a job on your hands

Re: Yb training

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:25 am
by NeilA
Anthony webster wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:01 pm
NeilA wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 6:43 pm
Anthony webster wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 11:21 am For 1 week there trained short bk to very little food pal once they know the score food is increased so there happy but one week its army rations n put through there paces.
Are they all the same age mate
Month difference pal
Do they run well before or does it not worry you

Re: Yb training

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 8:55 am
by Trev
Some interesting comments there fellas, just goes to prove, once again, that in this sport there are so many different ways of doing things. It all depends what you want to achieve and how you can fit the birds around your daily life.
I always used to train my youngsters hard and would train all the way through the season, I never messed around with short tosses though, they were straight out to 20miles.
I've been lazy since starting back up again in 2017, my aspirations aren't big, I enjoy having the birds again.
It is evident within our Club and fed that training does play a massive part in getting success with both Old and young birds, our top half a dozen fliers, who are there week in week out do train there birds hard. Of course you have to have top quality birds and a good system too as just training won't win races !!
This year I am planning on putting more effort into my youngsters and will start training them over the next couple of weeks, I will probably give them 1 toss from about 10 miles and then they will go to about 24miles, they will then get as many as my time will allow, I'm afraid my days of getting up at 3.30am every day are long gone lol, my desire to win isn't that strong these days lol 😂🤣

Re: Yb training

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:11 am
by Trev
Anthony webster wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:19 am
NeilA wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 9:11 pm Pointless really I don’t know what the answer is
I think I would send to Brighton but it’s awful way to enjoy your hobby
These wide feds are just daft only a quarter of the convoy can win
But I guess less fanciers means it’s got to happen
I've found in these wide feds if the wind is below 10mph u can pull good birds n get good results against the odds the dummy's go past but there dummy's the good ones seem to be OK, if wind is say 13mph n over ya pissing in the wind with top pigeons ,,this is from my experience in them feds.
Our federation has a spread of about 55miles along the southcoast, racing is from the North, yesterdays race was from Rugby 108miles, the wind was strong South West with some heavy rain on route. Now looking at the line of flight and wind the winners should have all been down in Eastbourne/Hastings, but once again the birds came in right across the board with the winners being fliers at opposite ends of the federation, Micky Stuart and Graham Wright in Hastings & Eastbourne and Alan Still in Bognor. The other interesting thing is that two fliers, Graham sent 9 and got 8, Alan sent 16 and got 16, not sure how many Micky Stuart sent though.
It just proves again that you don't need big teams and good pigeons will win regardless of the conditions.

Re: Yb training

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:44 am
by NeilA
Where was the drag though Trev did they go with the drag or against it to even things up with the wind

Re: Yb training

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:59 am
by MIL
Thats an immense lapse in time for the top 10 to be filled

Re: Yb training

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:40 am
by NeilA
MIL wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:59 am Thats an immense lapse in time for the top 10 to be filled
Is that 100 ypm to fill the top 10 in tne fed ?
It was 22ypm here I believe in our small fed and people said it was a strange race with gaps between birds

Re: Yb training

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 11:55 am
by MIL
Thats how i read it

Re: Yb training

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 2:57 pm
by Andy
NeilA wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:15 pm
Andy wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 7:27 pm
NeilA wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 12:00 pm

When you say you only need 4 is that after severe killing or you have 4 box’s spare
Yes Neil I admit that that is the number of boxes I have spare at the moment. 5 of the 8 cocks I have here have all been first bird this year. 2 of the other 3 haven’t been far behind. 1 has been only beaten by a loft mate on two occasions. I know they’re not setting the world on fire but fairly happy with them at present. They haven’t had the chance to prove anything yet. If I feel some aren’t worth keeping at the end of the year they will go even if leaving empt6 perches.
Trouble is with that race programme and you explaining the reason behind the team with distance in mind etc I can’t see how you can expect them to win regularly to you get to say 250 miles which you can’t get to
I wish you luck as you have a job on your hands
We have had 8 races in the WOESRC this season. There have been 8 different winners from 5 different clubs just showing that the weather plays a big part in where the winners are and no one person dominates the combine. Even with some top fliers in the combine they rarely take many positions in the top 50.
Yes I have a job on my hand but for me much more enjoyable than going out and spending a lot of money on pigeons I know nothing about.

Re: Yb training

Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2024 3:01 pm
by MIL
I would never and have never spent money on pigeons i know nothing about

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