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Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 10:53 pm
by Trev
Devo1956 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 8:02 pm
Wild bird seed, and apple cider vinegar in the water. I think it's looking ok. one of my railway birds.
Looking good mate, you really should try keeping racing pigeons my friend



Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Tue Jun 25, 2024 11:01 pm
by Murray
NeilA wrote: ↑Tue Jun 25, 2024 3:36 pm
Murray wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 8:15 am
I swear by apple cider vinegar. It is a great thing to promote the health of the birds, especially if combined with fresh garlic.003.JPG
Three times a week I crush a clove of garlic and put it in a bottle of lukewarm water. several hours later I strain out the garlic, add 10 ml of natural ACV and dilute it to make 3 litres.
The pigeons are always in brilliant health so it does them no harm
Could you put the garlic in the acv bottle or would that not work aswell
Probably, but I want the juice out of the crushed garlic which contains the Allicin, but I don't want the clove floating around starting to decompose. So I strain it out and add the cider vinegar.
Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:37 am
by Devo1956
Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:49 am
by Murray
I hope you win, Devo.
I can imagine the 4 pairs that you would select. They all would be off super bloodlines!

Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 10:14 am
by Devo1956
Murray wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2024 9:49 am
I hope you win, Devo.
I can imagine the 4 pairs that you would select. They all would be off super bloodlines!
I can only try Murray, i have 2 youngsters still in Germany. The plan is to bring them over after the Kassel show at the end of November. If all goes well, i will select the others to make 4 pairs.

Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:19 pm
by Andy
That would be great for you mate. Hope you manage to persuade Maria.
Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 1:20 pm
by Andy
I do use garlic and apple cider vinegar.
Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2024 4:12 pm
by NeilA
Can the allicin live in Acc or does the goodness get killed
Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:15 am
by Murray
Garlic contains a substance called Alliin. When the clove is crushed Alliin is oxidised and becomes Allicin. The oxidation continues and Allicin starts to break down. That is why garlic is most effective when freshly prepared. Over time it loses it's potency.
Because the amount of ACV in a drinker is small, I don't think it makes much difference.
Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 7:57 am
by NeilA
Murray wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:15 am
Garlic contains a substance called Alliin. When the clove is crushed Alliin is oxidised and becomes Allicin. The oxidation continues and Allicin starts to break down. That is why garlic is most effective when freshly prepared. Over time it loses it's potency.
Because the amount of ACV in a drinker is small, I don't think it makes much difference.
No sorry Murray
I mean if garlic is placed in the ACV the actual bottle of it then used that way
I seen people use a product with both combined or cloves can be thrown in the bottle and left but just didn’t know if the goodness would work like that