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Re: DEEP KEELS
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 7:43 pm
by Devo1956
I will leave at that Neil, Good topic.
As the birds keep flying, complex carbohydrates such as glycogen (stored in the liver and muscles) are broken down into simple sugars like glucose (in a process called gluconeogenesis, literally formation of 'new' sugar) which, in turn is, used as an energy source.
Re: DEEP KEELS
Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 8:01 pm
by NeilA
Devo1956 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 18, 2024 7:43 pm
I will leave at that Neil, Good topic.
As the birds keep flying, complex carbohydrates such as glycogen (stored in the liver and muscles) are broken down into simple sugars like glucose (in a process called gluconeogenesis, literally formation of 'new' sugar) which, in turn is, used as an energy source.
So nothing to do with deep keel then Devo
just what we new anyway
We can’t always agree Devo as you say but it keeps the site going
Re: DEEP KEELS
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:48 am
by Diamond Dave
Are there any muscles over the breast bones?
Dont know much about the anatomy but what is it that gets "pumped-up" when a bird is extremely fit and "corky"
I thought that was extra muscle so assumed that a deep keeled bird would have extra muscle for the distance.
Can somebody put me right on this please....
Re: DEEP KEELS
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 10:32 am
by Trev
Diamond Dave wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:48 am
Are there any muscles over the breast bones?
Dont know much about the anatomy but what is it that gets "pumped-up" when a bird is extremely fit and "corky"
I thought that was extra muscle so assumed that a deep keeled bird would have extra muscle for the distance.
Can somebody put me right on this please....
This is an interesting little read that may help, although as with most things racing pigeon related, a matter of opinion. I've taken a screen shot of the most relevant paragraph to this topic but the whole article is worth a read on a wet and miserable day like this.
https://www.pigeonracingpigeon.com/what ... g-pigeons/
Re: DEEP KEELS
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:40 pm
by NeilA
Diamond Dave wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 9:48 am
Are there any muscles over the breast bones?
Dont know much about the anatomy but what is it that gets "pumped-up" when a bird is extremely fit and "corky"
I thought that was extra muscle so assumed that a deep keeled bird would have extra muscle for the distance.
Can somebody put me right on this please....
Goose will know more than me
but the best distance birds local to me seem to be not at all deep but longer cast . Deep birds need work and harder to get fit I believe that’s what i have picked up from everything anyone any good as a fancier has told me over the years
Re: DEEP KEELS
Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2024 1:51 pm
by MIL
There's been some pretty impressive use of Google on this thread

Re: DEEP KEELS
Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:49 am
by Trev