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Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:10 am
by Trev
Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:14 am
by Trev
NeilA wrote: βThu Jun 27, 2024 7:57 am
Murray wrote: βThu Jun 27, 2024 12:15 am
Garlic contains a substance called Alliin. When the clove is crushed Alliin is oxidised and becomes Allicin. The oxidation continues and Allicin starts to break down. That is why garlic is most effective when freshly prepared. Over time it loses it's potency.
Because the amount of ACV in a drinker is small, I don't think it makes much difference.
No sorry Murray
I mean if garlic is placed in the ACV the actual bottle of it then used that way
I seen people use a product with both combined or cloves can be thrown in the bottle and left but just didnβt know if the goodness would work like that
The product I use has the Garlic in it, the only concern I have with that is that I buy a 5ltr bottle, as it works out cheaper, but by the time its finished it's gone well past its use by date and has been open for months, so is it any good still by that point ??
Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:23 am
by Murray
NeilA wrote: βThu Jun 27, 2024 7:57 am
Murray wrote: βThu Jun 27, 2024 12:15 am
Garlic contains a substance called Alliin. When the clove is crushed Alliin is oxidised and becomes Allicin. The oxidation continues and Allicin starts to break down. That is why garlic is most effective when freshly prepared. Over time it loses it's potency.
Because the amount of ACV in a drinker is small, I don't think it makes much difference.
No sorry Murray
I mean if garlic is placed in the ACV the actual bottle of it then used that way
I seen people use a product with both combined or cloves can be thrown in the bottle and left but just didnβt know if the goodness would work like that
I wouldn't know. I suppose you could if you wanted to, but I am not convinced it would be as good. Reading up on it it appears that fresh garlic is more effective. And it only takes a moment to peel and bash a garlic clove with the flat of a knife, and chuck it in some water. About as long as it takes to measure out some pre made product.
Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:36 am
by Murray
Same here. I arrived home with a nest baby that had been abandoned. I raised him in a TV carton. Wife was immediately suspicious.....
Now I have about 12 pairs of stock birds in the shed.
Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 8:39 am
by Devo1956
Yes Trev, everyone keeps telling me the same thing, your health is more important. Maria asked me what does she have to do, to compete with these pigeons, I told her. Learn to fly,

Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:06 am
by Murray
Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2024 10:17 am
by NeilA
Murray wrote: βThu Jun 27, 2024 8:23 am
NeilA wrote: βThu Jun 27, 2024 7:57 am
Murray wrote: βThu Jun 27, 2024 12:15 am
Garlic contains a substance called Alliin. When the clove is crushed Alliin is oxidised and becomes Allicin. The oxidation continues and Allicin starts to break down. That is why garlic is most effective when freshly prepared. Over time it loses it's potency.
Because the amount of ACV in a drinker is small, I don't think it makes much difference.
No sorry Murray
I mean if garlic is placed in the ACV the actual bottle of it then used that way
I seen people use a product with both combined or cloves can be thrown in the bottle and left but just didnβt know if the goodness would work like that
I wouldn't know. I suppose you could if you wanted to, but I am not convinced it would be as good. Reading up on it it appears that fresh garlic is more effective. And it only takes a moment to peel and bash a garlic clove with the flat of a knife, and chuck it in some water. About as long as it takes to measure out some pre made product.
Yes agree
My birds are not at home so itβs just a way of cutting down jobs once winter kicks in as I go in the dark cone home in the dark
I was just going to stuff some crushed cloves into my cider vin
Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:20 am
by Trev
Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:21 am
by Trev
Re: Apple cider vinegar
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2024 11:23 am
by Trev
NeilA wrote: βThu Jun 27, 2024 10:17 am
Murray wrote: βThu Jun 27, 2024 8:23 am
NeilA wrote: βThu Jun 27, 2024 7:57 am
No sorry Murray
I mean if garlic is placed in the ACV the actual bottle of it then used that way
I seen people use a product with both combined or cloves can be thrown in the bottle and left but just didnβt know if the goodness would work like that
I wouldn't know. I suppose you could if you wanted to, but I am not convinced it would be as good. Reading up on it it appears that fresh garlic is more effective. And it only takes a moment to peel and bash a garlic clove with the flat of a knife, and chuck it in some water. About as long as it takes to measure out some pre made product.
Yes agree
My birds are not at home so itβs just a way of cutting down jobs once winter kicks in as I go in the dark cone home in the dark
I was just going to stuff some crushed cloves into my cider vin
It's hard enough looking after the birds at home in the Winter, it must be tough not having them on site so anything to make life easier must be worth trying !!