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Re: Using Garlic

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:24 pm
by NeilA
Only what I found last year George

Re: Using Garlic

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2024 9:50 pm
by George and Morgan
and i'm only saying what she told me to-day

Re: Using Garlic

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:57 am
by MIL
George and Morgan wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:46 pm Alice Bell told me this to-day and they are at the very top with there show birds so must still be ok

To be honest my experience is different

I've found lice/mite on pigeons and showed them to the fancier and they've said "they were only done 6 weeks ago with U200"

I've seen this with both Lee Painter and Gary Gordon, so its deffo not what it used to be

Re: Using Garlic

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:22 am
by George and Morgan
as i said will speak to Alice to-day they are at the very top of showing and when in the pens the birds are very close to-gather

Re: Using Garlic

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:25 am
by NeilA
George and Morgan wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:22 am as i said will speak to Alice to-day they are at the very top of showing and when in the pens the birds are very close to-gather
Might have all recently been one spot post moult. Ready for the shows so still doing its job at that time

Re: Using Garlic

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 10:40 am
by MIL
George and Morgan wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:22 am as i said will speak to Alice to-day they are at the very top of showing and when in the pens the birds are very close to-gather
Not being funny George but I know what I've seen with my own eyes (not saying negative about Alice)

To put it bluntly, i wouldn't be paying money on U200 to rely on it keeping my birds clear for 12 months

That's my experience with what I've handled and seen myself.

And these boys are absoltely vigorous with their health and well being.

Re: Using Garlic

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:37 am
by NeilA
All I know is I did my babies in Late May
Then about week 3 of the yb season I noticed they needed doing
Not massive amounts but definitely Lice
A couple of years ago the product was a lot better

Re: Using Garlic

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:56 am
by MIL
NeilA wrote: Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:37 am All I know is I did my babies in Late May
Then about week 3 of the yb season I noticed they needed doing
Not massive amounts but definitely Lice
A couple of years ago the product was a lot better
Totally agree

Lee and Gary's were not "evil" - and not every pigeon impacted

But certainly not as bulletproof as it used to be

Re: Using Garlic

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 6:25 pm
by Keelem1
Never had problems with lice etc George
As I hold each bird every week in quite warm
Bucket of water with virkon in ,each bird 1 minute each bird
With just there head sticking out then it takes most of the day for them to dry out feather so soft after they dru out George

Re: Using Garlic

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2024 7:03 pm
by MIL
NeilA wrote: Tue Dec 17, 2024 8:51 pm
Doesn’t last a year when mixing with others
A few years ago it did
And therein probably lies the difference

Much higher rate of cross-contamination in racing lofts being in the basket every week

It used to work a treat but in the last 18 months its not "as" effective

So, for me, I think the formula has been tweaked in some way shape or form