Looks a bit tricky Saturday

[Steve Howells]

Where were you racing from Neil? We had one race from Newark and one from Laceby, I think everyone pretty much got 100% returns.

[MIL]

I "think" he was Retford Steve

[NeilA]

Where were you racing from Neil? We had one race from Newark and one from Laceby, I think everyone pretty much got 100% returns.

[NeilA]

Retford Steve
I would say 20-26 per cent still missing in the fed
A fed results with lots of names that you never really see
Massive gaps and pigeon coming out the south for our most including southerly fed members in a SW so head wind pretty much
Velocity of 150 from 1st to 20th fed
I had nothing off the road I could have been racing from Kent
Terrible race , well not really a race

[Steve Howells]

Not so far from us then. Most strange mind it was like that last week here, 1 lot at Sleaford and by and large it was a good race, but a few top flyers really struggled, the other club were at Lacbey and although the early ones came together a good few were missing. There seems no reason for it.

[Andy]

What did they have on return to evening Mike

I need the look at the vitality stuff more

It's good value for money Neil - goes a long way

One big problem fanciers have each YB season is with YB Sickness

I've helped Phil since March 2022

No sickness in 2022, no sickness in 2023, no sickness yet in 2024 (and he won't have it either)

Is he just lucky? Or is something else going on?

You tell me

We have a member in our club who didn’t race this week because of YBS. Others may well get it. Last year all members had it during the season, except me. I’ve never had YBS and never treat for anything.

[NeilA]

I don’t treat my yb Andy not to I train then there treated constantly for 3 months
I had ybs in May this year in one section but nothing in the other before I had treated any
I always think pigeons must sit on a perch without shit and a dry floor
A vet told me the worse thing you can do is have damp shit on a perch or floor for all pigeons
Steel or plastic grids or deep dry litter is the best in my view

[Andy]

That's good racing. But you can't just compare different locations like for like. A fancier could have a pack drop together which would reduce the vel between 1st & 30 or 40. The number of birds sent makes a difference, like wise the number of members sending.
My local Fed is less than a 3rd of the Worcester Fed. The gap between the first 30 the week before was over a 100 yds less. I stand by what I said, for MY area the race yesterday was a decent race. I've seen Fed results in the past of large Feds that have had a bad race but you wouldn't have said it from the Fed result.

The Worcester Fed lads would not call that good racing

It's how the "team" perform that determines if its a good race

45/50 in quickish time or is a "good race"

Funny how in a bad/hard race fanciers who have big drops each week really struggle for returns. They possibly get a small number together then the rest struggle. I would say that this is because most of the birds in these big drops are just followers and once detached from their loft mates they struggle.

[NeilA]

That's good racing. But you can't just compare different locations like for like. A fancier could have a pack drop together which would reduce the vel between 1st & 30 or 40. The number of birds sent makes a difference, like wise the number of members sending.
My local Fed is less than a 3rd of the Worcester Fed. The gap between the first 30 the week before was over a 100 yds less. I stand by what I said, for MY area the race yesterday was a decent race. I've seen Fed results in the past of large Feds that have had a bad race but you wouldn't have said it from the Fed result.

The Worcester Fed lads would not call that good racing

It's how the "team" perform that determines if its a good race

45/50 in quickish time or is a "good race"

Funny how in a bad/hard race fanciers who have big drops each week really struggle for returns. They possibly get a small number together then the rest struggle. I would say that this is because most of the birds in these big drops are just followers and once detached from their loft mates they struggle.

I get good drops Andy
Maybe you I am part of your view ?
if I don’t shut my widowhood shed in 20mins it’s a bad day

Yesterday I was 17th fed so I got them but it was a shit race I plan to move the pigeon on if it fails again in the next 2 races which it will
It’s a homer any one can get them
I like to race
Also I don’t really say much about when I send a bit further but in 4 races from Berwick I was 2nd / 4th / 9th combine
From Perth 4th and 23rd in two goes even I sent
So kind of busts open your view
I sent to Bordeaux 3 times 483 miles
I timed on the day each time 4th open I think 12th and about 40th bbc
I got no time for Pigeon’s 300th from 360 miles against 3000 to me that’s failed
But each to there own
I know a shit race a good race, a good pigeon and a homer also know a fancier and someone who keeps pets

[Andy]

The Worcester Fed lads would not call that good racing

It's how the "team" perform that determines if its a good race

45/50 in quickish time or is a "good race"

Funny how in a bad/hard race fanciers who have big drops each week really struggle for returns. They possibly get a small number together then the rest struggle. I would say that this is because most of the birds in these big drops are just followers and once detached from their loft mates they struggle.

I get good drops Andy
Maybe you I am part of your view ?
if I don’t shut my widowhood shed in 20mins it’s a bad day

Yesterday I was 17th fed so I got them but it was a shit race I plan to move the pigeon on if it fails again in the next 2 races which it will
It’s a homer any one can get them
I like to race
Also I don’t really say much about when I send a bit further but in 4 races from Berwick I was 2nd / 4th / 9th combine
From Perth 4th and 23rd in two goes even I sent
So kind of busts open your view
I sent to Bordeaux 3 times 483 miles
I timed on the day each time 4th open I think 12th and about 40th bbc
I got no time for Pigeon’s 300th from 360 miles against 3000 to me that’s failed
But each to there own
I know a shit race a good race, a good pigeon and a homer also know a fancier and someone who keeps pets

No Neil that doesn’t bust open my view as you say. That just shows that you have some good pigeons, which I know you have. But what I was saying was that these sort of races where birds don’t come in big numbers shows which are leaders and which are followers. Just sending a few and getting them is what you want. The Staddons are the best flyers in our club. They do send big numbers and usually get big drops. Last week they had 10 drop together and 21 in 2 minutes. Always well up in the combine too. Yesterday they still had the first 5 in the club and were 1, 2, 11,12 & 40th combine from 1836 birds. But the first 2 came together then another 2 together 4 minutes later. The fifth was 7 minutes behind their first. The rest of theirs that they got were well split. When coming up the club last night they had 43/71.
You say you would shut your widowhood loft up after 20 minutes with all home. I was like that years ago when racing North to the South coast. Wouldn’t have a chance of doing that down here in this combine. The spread of the combine is far too wide for that, about 80 miles South to North. Alright if you’re in the middle but I’m one of the most southerly.