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Re: Training and peregrine
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 6:53 am
by NeilA
Trev wrote: ↑Sat Apr 05, 2025 9:59 pm
NeilA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:46 pm
All good today
15/16 miles for them
Hens this morning 17 min
Cocks 5pm 17 min
One lib each time
It does seem both times I was hit this year was when I did 2 libs 5 mins apart not that I’m saying that’s the reason for it
Yet both times the 2nd lib got hit
That's good news Neil, well done.
I've obviously had bad trainers before, couldn't say hand on heart why, but they could have been hit by hawks. I have however only once actually seen a peregrine go into my trainers. It was when I lived on the Isle Wight, I took them about 12 miles from me to Culver Down. For those who don't know the Island, Culver Down is on the East side right up on the cliffs, for many years it housed a military fort and a look out for possible invaders of the mainland, it also housed an anti aircraft gun during the second world war. There is also a lovely pub up there that we used to visit when the kids were little, I used to take the birds with as it was a lovely open space with a great line of flight to Brighstone where I lived. I knew there Peregrine's nearby, but unfortunately on the Island, training sites with a half decent distance are few and far between, it was early evening, nice and clear with no sign of hawks when I opened the crate. But within seconds of the birds being in the air, out of nowhere, a Peregrine flew straight into them and they scattered everywhere closed followed by the hawk. My heart just sank, there was nothing I could do but hope. As expected, by the time I got home there was no sign of my birds. During the evening they started turning up in singles and pairs, by nightfall there were still empty perches. However during the next day, to my surprise and relief, the rest turned up, and remarkably none were injured. That day I had a lucky escape, and from then on I just left them on an open loft and gave up training.
Must be horrible to witness
I have two without secondary flights currently from the two bad trainers I lost one hen at the first and two cocks at the 2nd
The cocks toss was the worse one as the 12 were spread out over 5 hours returning to the loft 2 never seen again
Then you could see how nervous they were normally my pigeons trap straight to the board but these were not even trapping well considering the time on the wing so early in the year . I lost two very nice yearlings one out of a cock with 5 wins funny enough I retired him last year after he returned from a race with no flights in one wing as a hole in his side
If I got to the stage of constant strikes at home I’m not sure I would continue with the sport as it gets to upsetting
Its hard enough to find a few good pigeons as it is
Re: Training and peregrine
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:51 am
by MIL
NeilA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 05, 2025 5:46 pm
All good today
15/16 miles for them
Hens this morning 17 min
Cocks 5pm 17 min
One lib each time
It does seem both times I was hit this year was when I did 2 libs 5 mins apart not that I’m saying that’s the reason for it
Yet both times the 2nd lib got hit
They're not losing a fat lot of time there Neil
Re: Training and peregrine
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:53 am
by NeilA
No going well last years ybs were doing 18 min at best and 19 regular
Re: Training and peregrine
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:03 am
by MIL
The only time that matters next really is on Saturday
Wishing you all the very best with that
Re: Training and peregrine
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:19 am
by Murray
I took the youngsters out again for their second toss. I took them about two and a half miles with a strong head wind. I got home before them , obviously,
They arrived and zoomed around for a while them dropped in quite well. Several of them on the drop. Bang and in.
We are making a start. Same tomorrow, then over the hill to the racecourse.
Re: Training and peregrine
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:24 am
by NeilA
Murray wrote: ↑Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:19 am
I took the youngsters out again for their second toss. I took them about two and a half miles with a strong head wind. I got home before them , obviously,
They arrived and zoomed around for a while them dropped in quite well. Several of them on the drop. Bang and in.
We are making a start. Same tomorrow, then over the hill to the racecourse.
Will these race this year in a few weeks or September time
Only guessing may to August is your off season
Re: Training and peregrine
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:31 am
by Trev
Murray wrote: ↑Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:19 am
I took the youngsters out again for their second toss. I took them about two and a half miles with a strong head wind. I got home before them , obviously,
They arrived and zoomed around for a while them dropped in quite well. Several of them on the drop. Bang and in.
We are making a start. Same tomorrow, then over the hill to the racecourse.
Sounds like it's all going well Muzza, I hope it continues mate, well done.
Re: Training and peregrine
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:40 am
by Murray
NeilA wrote: ↑Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:24 am
Murray wrote: ↑Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:19 am
I took the youngsters out again for their second toss. I took them about two and a half miles with a strong head wind. I got home before them , obviously,
They arrived and zoomed around for a while them dropped in quite well. Several of them on the drop. Bang and in.
We are making a start. Same tomorrow, then over the hill to the racecourse.
Will these race this year in a few weeks or September time
Only guessing may to August is your off season
Correct, these will not race until, July/August. Most blokes will not have thought about training, but I am in a different situation this year. I am still in transition from my my old place in Bendigo to here in the country. I have some very early bred youngsters which are nearly yearlings.
I am going to train them as hard and as far as I can through April and the beginning of May, or until I lose them, then put them aside for two months in the middle of winter.
Which is when the Bendigo blokes start training,
We will see how ir goes

Re: Training and peregrine
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 9:14 am
by NeilA
Very similar to what Tony Webster did with his ybs heavy to November start again April race in May
Re: Training and peregrine
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2025 10:34 am
by Murray
Yes, but I am well aware that at any point in the next few weeks, two falcons can crash through them and end the whole plan.
They are going really well, but that is only today. And I never forget that.