Training ybs in small groups / return

[NeilA]

If you do the pigeons totally on your own and you train or you want to train soon in small groups of say 5 birds from a team of 30 so 6 libs
How do you reward the birds on return
Obviously the first ones to feed but the later ones what’s there reward ?
I thought of dupurative left in the tray then the later ones will more than likely just find barley so not a great reward

Any ideas or methods anyone can suggest

[Andy]

If you do the pigeons totally on your own and you train or you want to train soon in small groups of say 5 birds from a team of 30 so 6 libs
How do you reward the birds on return
Obviously the first ones to feed but the later ones what’s there reward ?
I thought of dupurative left in the tray then the later ones will more than likely just find barley so not a great reward

Any ideas or methods anyone can suggest

It will be interesting to hear what others say. I have never trained mine in other way than all together. If I did I might of been able to persuade the missus to get them in at the home end but even that would be difficult if all going into the same section as the first ones would be getting fresh food every time the next batch arrived.

[NeilA]

If you do the pigeons totally on your own and you train or you want to train soon in small groups of say 5 birds from a team of 30 so 6 libs
How do you reward the birds on return
Obviously the first ones to feed but the later ones what’s there reward ?
I thought of dupurative left in the tray then the later ones will more than likely just find barley so not a great reward

Any ideas or methods anyone can suggest

It will be interesting to hear what others say. I have never trained mine in other way than all together. If I did I might of been able to persuade the missus to get them in at the home end but even that would be difficult if all going into the same section as the first ones would be getting fresh food every time the next batch arrived.

Yes mate I don’t normally do it due to them issues
I have a decent size team this year so being on natural I know by the 4th race they won’t compete so I need a bit strict on selection to have them sorted

[king]

If you do the pigeons totally on your own and you train or you want to train soon in small groups of say 5 birds from a team of 30 so 6 libs
How do you reward the birds on return
Obviously the first ones to feed but the later ones what’s there reward ?
I thought of dupurative left in the tray then the later ones will more than likely just find barley so not a great reward

Any ideas or methods anyone can suggest

The smaller the better. I'm surprised that some fanciers still train in a single group. Many around me used to think that having a large group somehow give them an advantage if their birds met another smaller group when training. But in todays reality with BOP it just attracts more interest from BOP. If you train in a single group and your birds are attacked it could result in a disaster. But training with several groups lessens the chance of a disaster, you may have one group hit, would would be really unlucky to have more groups hit.
In the last 4 years I raced I lost less than 5 birds training up to 45 miles. I myself trained my 25ish birds in TWO groups simply because only 2 baskets fitted in the car. As for feeding, my birds had 2 sections so each group were independent of each other.

[NeilA]

If you do the pigeons totally on your own and you train or you want to train soon in small groups of say 5 birds from a team of 30 so 6 libs
How do you reward the birds on return
Obviously the first ones to feed but the later ones what’s there reward ?
I thought of dupurative left in the tray then the later ones will more than likely just find barley so not a great reward

Any ideas or methods anyone can suggest

The smaller the better. I'm surprised that some fanciers still train in a single group. Many around me used to think that having a large group somehow give them an advantage if their birds met another smaller group when training. But in todays reality with BOP it just attracts more interest from BOP. If you train in a single group and your birds are attacked it could result in a disaster. But training with several groups lessens the chance of a disaster, you may have one group hit, would would be really unlucky to have more groups hit.
In the last 4 years I raced I lost less than 5 birds training up to 45 miles. I myself trained my 25ish birds in TWO groups simply because only 2 baskets fitted in the car. As for feeding, my birds had 2 sections so each group were independent of each other.

Any fear of answering the question King rather than all our yesterday’s nice as it was

[king]

If you do the pigeons totally on your own and you train or you want to train soon in small groups of say 5 birds from a team of 30 so 6 libs
How do you reward the birds on return
Obviously the first ones to feed but the later ones what’s there reward ?
I thought of dupurative left in the tray then the later ones will more than likely just find barley so not a great reward

Any ideas or methods anyone can suggest

The smaller the better. I'm surprised that some fanciers still train in a single group. Many around me used to think that having a large group somehow give them an advantage if their birds met another smaller group when training. But in todays reality with BOP it just attracts more interest from BOP. If you train in a single group and your birds are attacked it could result in a disaster. But training with several groups lessens the chance of a disaster, you may have one group hit, would would be really unlucky to have more groups hit.
In the last 4 years I raced I lost less than 5 birds training up to 45 miles. I myself trained my 25ish birds in TWO groups simply because only 2 baskets fitted in the car. As for feeding, my birds had 2 sections so each group were independent of each other.

Any fear of answering the question King rather than all our yesterday’s nice as it was

If I was racing today the answer would be the same. I can only tell you what I did, not as I'm doing, as I no longer race as you know. I would still expect to lose less training than most do if I were still racing. What I write may prevent another fancier losing an entire YB team from a BOP attack.
I recall posting on chat after a member had a disaster after letting some 70 birds go all together. If you had released them in smaller groups you wouldn't be crying about losing so many

[NeilA]

That’s not my question though King
I know the answer you have given but I never asked that
I could tell you what I had for dinner tonight as that’s as relevant to the question as your answer is

[king]

That’s not my question though King
I know the answer you have given but I never asked that
I could tell you what I had for dinner tonight as that’s as relevant to the question as your answer is

Well the only bit I failed to answer was what was their reward on return. It was a bit of red band or a few peanuts. The birds got their main feed when I got home. But if you take anything from what I posted, it should be the training in small groups.

[Albert]

leave Barley for them, then when you get home, give them their feed.

[MIL]

There's merit in what Albert says Neil, because barley is a great moderator

However, I know you and I know your precision on weighing food etc

I think for you, in your situation, the reward they receive on return is the first instance is just being home

That's what racingis all about in its most simplest form - racing home for the love of home

Once you're home, they can get the food reward as you see fit

This is what Phil has to do - like you he's a one man band