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What colour?

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 4:52 pm
by Andy
I have a pair of late breds in the nest. What colour would you call the red one?
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The sire is a red grizzle and the dam a blue Chequer. One is a blue grizzle but not sure yet on the red one.

Re: What colour?

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 5:20 pm
by king
Well one looks like a blue grizzle. The other looks like either being a Dun or maybe a Brown (the rarest of the the 3 base colours)
It's hard to give correct colour until the birds first moult. And if still in doubt you may have to breed from it to be certain. As many birds are not genetically the colour they appear to be.

Below is a brown I bred a few years ago.
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Re: What colour?

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:01 pm
by NeilA
How did or what did breed that brown king

Re: What colour?

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:08 pm
by Devo1956
It reminds me of this family of birds.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Y4KZD29xM

Re: What colour?

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:14 pm
by king
NeilA wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:01 pm How did or what did breed that brown king
Mine was bred from another brown Neil. The brown gene is not common in Racing pigeons. Brown feathers will fade into a cream color and then fray with age by the suns rays. This is why Brown is not commonly found in most racing lofts. Brown wing feathers also do not hold up to the stress of racing.
All pigeons come from only 3 base colours. (1) blue/black, (2) ash red & (3) brown. with the most dominant 1, then 2, then 3.

Re: What colour?

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:42 pm
by NeilA
king wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:14 pm
NeilA wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:01 pm How did or what did breed that brown king
Mine was bred from another brown Neil. The brown gene is not common in Racing pigeons. Brown feathers will fade into a cream color and then fray with age by the suns rays. This is why Brown is not commonly found in most racing lofts. Brown wing feathers also do not hold up to the stress of racing.
All pigeons come from only 3 base colours. (1) blue/black, (2) ash red & (3) brown. with the most dominant 1, then 2, then 3.
I don’t think I have seen one before
What would a chocolate come from as a base colour is that brown or red base

Re: What colour?

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:34 pm
by king
NeilA wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:42 pm
king wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:14 pm
NeilA wrote: Mon Jul 29, 2024 7:01 pm How did or what did breed that brown king
Mine was bred from another brown Neil. The brown gene is not common in Racing pigeons. Brown feathers will fade into a cream color and then fray with age by the suns rays. This is why Brown is not commonly found in most racing lofts. Brown wing feathers also do not hold up to the stress of racing.
All pigeons come from only 3 base colours. (1) blue/black, (2) ash red & (3) brown. with the most dominant 1, then 2, then 3.
I don’t think I have seen one before
What would a chocolate come from as a base colour is that brown or red base
It can come from ANY of the 3 base colours.. A Chocolate is a Recessive Red. A recessive red will require two genes (factors) to show itself. So unless your birds have the recessive gene your very unlikely to breed one. Many chocs/recessive reds in the Mulemann family can come from two non-chocs where BOTH parents carry the recessive gene.

Re: What colour?

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 8:38 pm
by NeilA
Good info that King
Thanks

Re: What colour?

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:09 pm
by Andy
This is the sire:
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I will keep you updated with how it develops.

Re: What colour?

Posted: Mon Jul 29, 2024 11:24 pm
by Trev
Nice pigeon Andy, and an interesting looking pair of babies !!!
It will be interesting to see what colour they are after they've moulted !!