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Any Eye Sign Specialists

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 3:46 pm
by Spieker-Loft
Is there anyone here who has some knowledge about eye signs and maybe can look at the eye of 2 birds we bought today ?

Re: Any Eye Sign Specialists

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 3:48 pm
by Buster121
Spieker-Loft wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 3:46 pm Is there anyone here who has some knowledge about eye signs and maybe can look at the eye of 2 birds we bought today ?
If you put photos up Andy will give an insight he is the only one I know on here who does know anything about eyes

Re: Any Eye Sign Specialists

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 3:52 pm
by Spieker-Loft
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Re: Any Eye Sign Specialists

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 4:05 pm
by king
I'm not an eyesign expert. But count them. If they have TWO and are not blind the eyes are fine. The colour of your birds eyes is genetic, the colour comes from their parents. It is what it is.
I've attended many eye shows over the years and 99% of the birds that won them never actually raced, let alone win anything.

Re: Any Eye Sign Specialists

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 4:15 pm
by Spieker-Loft
king wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 4:05 pm I'm not an eyesign expert. But count them. If they have TWO and are not blind the eyes are fine. The colour of your birds eyes is genetic, the colour comes from their parents. It is what it is.
I've attended many eye shows over the years and 99% of the birds that won them never actually raced, let alone win anything.
Im not a big believer in it either. But i do have to say that i catch myself looking in the eye everytime anyways tho.

Re: Any Eye Sign Specialists

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 4:24 pm
by king
Spieker-Loft wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 4:15 pm
king wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 4:05 pm I'm not an eyesign expert. But count them. If they have TWO and are not blind the eyes are fine. The colour of your birds eyes is genetic, the colour comes from their parents. It is what it is.
I've attended many eye shows over the years and 99% of the birds that won them never actually raced, let alone win anything.
Im not a big believer in it either. But i do have to say that i catch myself looking in the eye everytime anyways tho.
Me too. I love a rich eye with plenty of colour, but the majority of Winning racing birds wouldn't win an eyesign class.

Re: Any Eye Sign Specialists

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 5:08 pm
by Devo1956
When Andy comes on Leon, he will give you his thoughts on both eyes They look very nice birds to bring into your lofts, the Quality is growing.

Re: Any Eye Sign Specialists

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 8:24 pm
by Andy
Good evening Leon. I don’t pretend to be a eyesign expert/specialist but do like looking at eyesign. I don’t use it as much as I used to as my eyes aren’t so good nowadays. I do look at the eyes for breeding purposes but wouldn’t say it tells much about racing ability.
The first thing I would say is that both the eyes have rather full irises leaning more to racing than breeding. This makes it more difficult when pairing as they are best suited going to pigeons with eyes with a lot more room in the iris.
The BE pigeon has a better breeding eye than the NL one in my opinion.
The BE pigeon has a very nice inner circle around the pupil. It is wide with lots of waves running around it and with an area of dark shading between 4 & 7 o’clock. You can see the yellow circle of colouration showing through the iris in places. The iris is a full rich red and mountainous.
With the NL eye the inner circle isn’t so clear and broken by the iris breaking into it. There is an area of dark shading between 3 & 6 which is serrated. The red iris is a bit more broken than the BE eye with the violet showing through but still quite full.
Sorry Leon but I’m not overly keen on them for breeding but that’s just my opinion. Hopefully they will prove me wrong.

Re: Any Eye Sign Specialists

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2024 10:20 pm
by Murray
king wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 4:05 pm I'm not an eyesign expert. But count them. If they have TWO and are not blind the eyes are fine. The colour of your birds eyes is genetic, the colour comes from their parents. It is what it is.
I've attended many eye shows over the years and 99% of the birds that won them never actually raced, let alone win anything.
I second that. If they have an eye on both sides of their heads, I'm happy.

Re: Any Eye Sign Specialists

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2024 6:43 am
by MIL
Spieker-Loft wrote: Sat Oct 12, 2024 3:46 pm Is there anyone here who has some knowledge about eye signs and maybe can look at the eye of 2 birds we bought today ?
In my experience working as close as possible to a good winning gene pool is far more important than any eyesign a pigeon may have

I've never met a good eyesign man that could beat me on even a remotely regular basis