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Quality is a choice

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:16 pm
by Devo1956
Well its coming to the time of selection in the breeding loft. now there are different ways of breeding. But do select well, Destiny is all.

Re: Quality is a choice

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:38 pm
by NeilA
Selected in September Devo
Race team selected Sunday after the last old bird race in July all moved on straight away here
Results in the loft book decides all so it’s pretty much sorted with a couple of races to go
You may know by now I have no interest in strains / fashion
Worse thing for b me would be not moving on old birds then losing loads of ybs and ending up keeping old birds that were average through fear of only having half a dozen to race
I had 4 badly hit by peregrines this year I put one to stock I gave 3 fed winners away
I kept 3 old birds as the rest were average or ruined that was before I had raced a yb so it could have gone badly wrong but what went wasn’t to the standard I want
If you drop standards to fill a box I think it’s a error for sprinting same for stock

Re: Quality is a choice

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 2:23 pm
by Devo1956
NeilA wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:38 pm Selected in September Devo
Race team selected Sunday after the last old bird race in July all moved on straight away here
Results in the loft book decides all so it’s pretty much sorted with a couple of races to go
You may know by now I have no interest in strains / fashion
Worse thing for b me would be not moving on old birds then losing loads of ybs and ending up keeping old birds that were average through fear of only having half a dozen to race
I had 4 badly hit by peregrines this year I put one to stock I gave 3 fed winners away
I kept 3 old birds as the rest were average or ruined that was before I had raced a yb so it could have gone badly wrong but what went wasn’t to the standard I want
If you drop standards to fill a box I think it’s a error for sprinting same for stock
Great feedback Neil. topics like this are all about. helping other members, Also new starters coming into the sport.

Re: Quality is a choice

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 2:33 pm
by NeilA
For me Devo the results in my book are all that matters I am not a natural fancier who can pick a good pigeon so it’s method and results only that concern me

Re: Quality is a choice

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:27 pm
by CHARLTON34
NeilA wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 1:38 pm Selected in September Devo
Race team selected Sunday after the last old bird race in July all moved on straight away here
Results in the loft book decides all so it’s pretty much sorted with a couple of races to go
You may know by now I have no interest in strains / fashion
Worse thing for b me would be not moving on old birds then losing loads of ybs and ending up keeping old birds that were average through fear of only having half a dozen to race
I had 4 badly hit by peregrines this year I put one to stock I gave 3 fed winners away
I kept 3 old birds as the rest were average or ruined that was before I had raced a yb so it could have gone badly wrong but what went wasn’t to the standard I want
If you drop standards to fill a box I think it’s a error for sprinting same for stock
Hello NeilA, very true in what you've said in your post, I think that the only way forward, sentiment shouldn't play a part you need to be clinical .
Anthony Webster will probably say the same thing, if you could look back at the old posts from Chat then this has been visited on more than 1 occasion ,keep things moving forward young pigeons in the loft not old ones that haven't produced should be taken out, test & test them again is the way forward & I think next year I will be doing the same anything that doesn't tow the line will be gone .

Re: Quality is a choice

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:37 pm
by NeilA
I think about 3 years ago of my 17 cocks I had 11 special ones the other 6 were very average
Last year I had 8 from 20 but the peregrines wrecked me
To be honest the extra I had made no difference to results just might aswell not had them
Obviously middle to long distance is totally different but in sprints if there not there as a yearling 99 percent of the time there not going to change the world as a 2 year old , maybe the odd card but not in the batch each week

Re: Quality is a choice

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:49 pm
by Spieker-Loft
How far is considered Sprint / middle distance and /Long Distance ?

Re: Quality is a choice

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:51 pm
by NeilA
Spieker-Loft wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 3:49 pm How far is considered Sprint / middle distance and /Long Distance ?
We race to 210 miles but have a 285 miles so I send to that race so that’s kind of what I think is maximum sprint
Middle distance I guess from there to 400 miles then distance from 450 ish
But others may think differently

Re: Quality is a choice

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 5:05 pm
by CHARLTON34
All are racing is done inland from 44/120mls not good at all to be honest.
Before Brexit the Combine used to race across the Channel from Carentan down to as far as Bergerac maybe longer, Andy on here will probably correct me if I'm wrong. But unfortunately it's not financially viable & member's not wishing to have vet's visits etc to comply.

Re: Quality is a choice

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 5:16 pm
by NeilA
CHARLTON34 wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 5:05 pm All are racing is done inland from 44/120mls not good at all to be honest.
Before Brexit the Combine used to race across the Channel from Carentan down to as far as Bergerac maybe longer, Andy on here will probably correct me if I'm wrong. But unfortunately it's not financially viable & member's not wishing to have vet's visits etc to comply.
No easy to a big radius wind will definitely play a part each week mate