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Cocks or Hens
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 2:22 pm
by Buster121
Which do people think are easiest to break,l ask as I intend to try and break some prisoners when I get back home
Re: Cocks or Hens
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 2:51 pm
by NeilA
Buster121 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2024 2:22 pm
Which do people think are easiest to break,l ask as I intend to try and break some prisoners when I get back home
I found cocks driving hard easy particularly if on a big baby and driving again is and hens on eggs or babies
Re: Cocks or Hens
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:34 pm
by king
Cock or Hens makes no difference. In ALL the birds I've broken, I never had to bring a bird back from it's old loft more than twice. In the past I broke 7 ybs from a fancier in 4 days when he packed in mid-season . Broke my entire old bird team within a week when I moved house.
The more intelligent the bird the easier it is. Cocks chasing, hens sitting.
Re: Cocks or Hens
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 4:10 pm
by Buster121
Thanks for replying, these are birds bred by myself and never been out
Re: Cocks or Hens
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:52 pm
by Trev
I can't say I've ever really noticed if one sex is easier to break than the other !!
I did break some old birds a couple of years ago, they were all sitting eggs, I broke all four of the cock birds but lost 2 of the 4 hens !! These were all older stock birds of Des Coulter's, they had come to me from his friend Mick Parrish who had them when Des got rid of his birds. Mick had them in an aviary for two years before I had them but prior to that they'd been on an open loft only a few hundred yards from my loft, I never did see them again !!
I've had very mixed results breaking birds over the years but I do think that the longer they are shut in for the harder it is.
Hopefully as yours were bred there it won't be a problem Buster, good luck with them mate.
Re: Cocks or Hens
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:54 pm
by Buster121
Trev wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2024 7:52 pm
I can't say I've ever really noticed if one sex is easier to break than the other !!
I did break some old birds a couple of years ago, they were all sitting eggs, I broke all four of the cock birds but lost 2 of the 4 hens !! These were all older stock birds of Des Coulter's, they had come to me from his friend Mick Parrish who had them when Des got rid of his birds. Mick had them in an aviary for two years before I had them but prior to that they'd been on an open loft only a few hundred yards from my loft, I never did see them again !!
I've had very mixed results breaking birds over the years but I do think that the longer they are shut in for the harder it is.
Hopefully as yours were bred there it won't be a problem Buster, good luck with them mate.
Some of them are older Trev and never been in a aviary only there section, there is the issues
Re: Cocks or Hens
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:31 pm
by Murray
king wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:34 pm
Cock or Hens makes no difference. In ALL the birds I've broken, I never had to bring a bird back from it's old loft more than twice. In the past I broke 7 ybs from a fancier in 4 days when he packed in mid-season . Broke my entire old bird team within a week when I moved house.
The more intelligent the bird the easier it is. Cocks chasing, hens sitting.
Yep, we lived in rented houses in New Zealand and moved every couple of years. Once we moved 150 miles and I had them all out and flying within a week.
With short moves I would have them out a couple of days later.
This time the birds spent months locked up when we moved and I lost too many getting them out. The sooner they are out the better.
Re: Cocks or Hens
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:04 am
by Andy
I’ve moved a few times and generally have broken birds fairly easily. The hardest ones to break are those that have been shut up for a long time or haven’t been out before. As king says the best birds are the easiest to break. I did find though when I moved from the Sussex, where I had a team of winners, down to Cornwall that although they broke fairly quickly it was different pigeons that performed down there and took a while to produce a new team of winners. It is definitely a case of different pigeons for different areas which is why I think it’s pointless in buying pigeons, certainly from abroad, and expecting them to preform in totally different conditions.
Re: Cocks or Hens
Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2024 2:34 pm
by Buster121
Andy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:04 am
I’ve moved a few times and generally have broken birds fairly easily. The hardest ones to break are those that have been shut up for a long time or haven’t been out before. As king says the best birds are the easiest to break. I did find though when I moved from the Sussex, where I had a team of winners, down to Cornwall that although they broke fairly quickly it was different pigeons that performed down there and took a while to produce a new team of winners. It is definitely a case of different pigeons for different areas which is why I think it’s pointless in buying pigeons, certainly from abroad, and expecting them to preform in totally different conditions.
mine have been both shut up and never been out