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This will be the last pigeon for the upcomming season that will be brought into our loft i just acquired it about 1 hour ago and for me its something very special to own a Original Gebr. Leideman of this caliber i think i really made a "Bargain" ( Always matter of opinion anyways) but i heard that direct children from connor usually go for about 7.5-10k € which i have not even paid 1/3 from. I have brought in way more pigeons in the recent weeks but unfortunately i have been sortof inactive due to alot of work and health issues. In a few days ill start sharing some of the other new birds.

A very good buy, also from the lines of crack 19. Very nice buy Leon, well done mate.

Well done hope it breeds plenty winners for you

When was the photo taken Leon was it in a moult ?
I wish you all the best with it I hope it breeds you some winners

The only thing I've seen across a variety of Global auction sites in recent montha is the Leideman pigeons declining in value (and therefore demand). This applies to both UK and European auction sites

MIL wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:39 pm The only thing I've seen across a variety of Global auction sites in recent montha is the Leideman pigeons declining in value (and therefore demand). This applies to both UK and European auction sites

Fashion changes very quickly
Like you always say good pigeons can be cheap if you don’t care about the latest fashion

It can indeed

I mean this hen is currently sat at £475 which isn't "cheap" to some people but what a pigeon this looks (and obviously a proven racer/breeder to boot)

https://www.excelsiorpigeon.com/lots/9577

MIL wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:48 pm It can indeed

I mean this hen is currently sat at £475 which isn't "cheap" to some people but what a pigeon this looks (and obviously a proven racer/breeder to boot)

https://www.excelsiorpigeon.com/lots/9577

Cracker that
What more could you want if buying a pigeon in
Real results in hot competition
I hate pedigrees with just names and no actual stats
I still think my Elvis son was a steal Mike
if you think Elvis is a double fed winner I believe a 3rd and 4th national winner like the one in your example a proper pigeon nothing flash or in fashion but top pigeons

MIL wrote: ↑Sat Nov 23, 2024 4:39 pm The only thing I've seen across a variety of Global auction sites in recent montha is the Leideman pigeons declining in value (and therefore demand). This applies to both UK and European auction sites

I partially agree with this but atleast over here if you got original gebr leideman birds people are still very interested specially when you got direct children from their superstars.
But the decline also made people sell off their birds for cheap and i think i gotten a great steal on a few of them over the past weeks because people just tried to get rid of them for example we bought 2 children from a halfbrother of goed grijs from Eddy den haese for 650€ each. 2 weeks later i see full brothers / sisters sell for 2500€ in an auction house

Leon do you think the names attract you ?
I just pick performance of parents g/parents they don’t have to be fashion
Anthony Webster use to always say you need 6 good winners on the left side of the pedigree I honestly think he was right
Not brothers or sisters of winners to buy from
I have a cock 3 times first 2500 birds he has bred me 5 federation winners yet every 6 he breeds 5 are crap it’s easy to put these to stock and sell ybs from them rather than the bin if I was a fancier who was interested in money
I think you can find good pigeons for your loft without going with fashion

Would you really buy the cock in the photo without the name just on looks ?