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Training old birds

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:33 pm
by NeilA
What members thoughts on old training
I’m pretty relentless to the first race although only short they get a good few
Then just one early in the week for the first two races
Sometimes if they don’t come on my line I train one night the following week

My mate trains to the box only 3 night then loft flies every morning and Thursday night
They get the hens Friday night
So very different to me

What do others do or what would you like to be able to do

Re: Training old birds

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:17 pm
by MIL
I've done it both ways Neil

Pre-marriage I would've trained midweek in the afternoon - no further than 20 miles

Once married time was more precious and during the season I never trained

That pre-season work is crucial, even moreso for yearling widowers.

Of course, others will allow them to "learn on the job" but for me the OB season is 12-13 weeks long and you keep birds 52 weeks of the year. Each race was precious to me. Why waste time? A win in April is just as nice as a win in June

Re: Training old birds

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:44 pm
by NeilA
Definitely pre season I will be on it

So Mike when you trained was you loft flying morning
What do the cocks return to midweek
Was the yearlings rewarded

Re: Training old birds

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:48 pm
by Andy
If the weather is right I would like to give them 2 or 3 tosses pre season. Last year the weather was rubbish so they didn’t get any.
Nothing after first race. Cocks loft flown morning and evening.

Re: Training old birds

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:11 pm
by MIL
NeilA wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:44 pm Definitely pre season I will be on it

So Mike when you trained was you loft flying morning
What do the cocks return to midweek
Was the yearlings rewarded
Yes, I preferred to train in the afternoon as 9/10 it was warmer in the afternoon

They'd loft fly in the morning (assuming not wet or damp)

I NEVER let them out in the wet or damp. Does no one any good

Yearlings were always rewarded with the hen. They never always had contact, but she was always there

Re: Training old birds

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:42 pm
by Diamond Dave
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Yes, I preferred to train in the afternoon as 9/10 it was warmer in the afternoon

They'd loft fly in the morning (assuming not wet or damp)

I NEVER let them out in the wet or damp. Does no one any good(

Yearlings were always rewarded with the hen. They never always had contact, but she was always there
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You guys are always banging on about routine and timing - so how does a spell of bad weather affect your birds when you dont let em out...?

Re: Training old birds

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:44 pm
by NeilA
MIL wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:11 pm
NeilA wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 4:44 pm Definitely pre season I will be on it

So Mike when you trained was you loft flying morning
What do the cocks return to midweek
Was the yearlings rewarded
Yes, I preferred to train in the afternoon as 9/10 it was warmer in the afternoon

They'd loft fly in the morning (assuming not wet or damp)

I NEVER let them out in the wet or damp. Does no one any good

Yearlings were always rewarded with the hen. They never always had contact, but she was always there
Cheers Mike will think about training more and rewarding with the Hen

Re: Training old birds

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:47 pm
by NeilA
Diamond Dave wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:42 pm [quote=MIL post_id=35976 time=1737479496

Yes, I preferred to train in the afternoon as 9/10 it was warmer in the afternoon

They'd loft fly in the morning (assuming not wet or damp)

I NEVER let them out in the wet or damp. Does no one any good(

Yearlings were always rewarded with the hen. They never always had contact, but she was always there
You guys are always banging on about routine and timing - so how does a spell of bad weather affect your birds when you dont let em out...?
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I just skip a flying period I can’t stand my birds getting wet it leads to problems for that week or possible problems
If there’s a break for 20 min there out and in they know soon as I drop the board they need to be fighting to get in no matter how long the period out

Re: Training old birds

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:50 pm
by MIL
Dave - I always liked to feed AM and PM around the same time; so any work that the birds did/didn't do was factored around that

Re: Training old birds

Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2025 5:56 pm
by NeilA
I must admit I have various alarms set on my phone for feed / flying time out flying time in
Ybs the same out in / feed / train