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and of course it all being double Dutch to me me 
Trev, if i had somewhere to keep them, i would buy them. Nest mate to The rock 250 Euros and the Blue at the bottom.100 Euros.
You are right Muzza, not that I've ever set the sport alight but some of my best pigeons have been gifted to me. Most recently the eggs I was given in 2018 by our late friend Laurie Everett, these were from the Crammond and Langstaff partnership. Of course that's the way it always done in the top Belgium lofts, the top fliers just used to swap pigeons.Murray wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:41 am Sometimes though, you can just get lucky. Be in the right place at the right time. I was. My big grizzle Thone' cock was one of a pair of eggs I fostered for David. He decided his loft was full and left him here to race. So I gave him lots of tosses but kept him when he paired up and went on eggs.
A year later he is simply magnificent, and has a pedigree to match.
Total cost, nothing. It can happen.
No, he isn't very photogenic.Trev wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:47 amYou are right Muzza, not that I've ever set the sport alight but some of my best pigeons have been gifted to me. Most recently the eggs I was given in 2018 by our late friend Laurie Everett, these were from the Crammond and Langstaff partnership. Of course that's the way it always done in the top Belgium lofts, the top fliers just used to swap pigeons.Murray wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:41 am Sometimes though, you can just get lucky. Be in the right place at the right time. I was. My big grizzle Thone' cock was one of a pair of eggs I fostered for David. He decided his loft was full and left him here to race. So I gave him lots of tosses but kept him when he paired up and went on eggs.
A year later he is simply magnificent, and has a pedigree to match.
Total cost, nothing. It can happen.
Have you got any recent pictures of your Grizzle mate ??
So I quietly pick up my phone and...he knows 
Murray wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 7:29 amNo, he isn't very photogenic.Trev wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 6:47 amYou are right Muzza, not that I've ever set the sport alight but some of my best pigeons have been gifted to me. Most recently the eggs I was given in 2018 by our late friend Laurie Everett, these were from the Crammond and Langstaff partnership. Of course that's the way it always done in the top Belgium lofts, the top fliers just used to swap pigeons.Murray wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:41 am Sometimes though, you can just get lucky. Be in the right place at the right time. I was. My big grizzle Thone' cock was one of a pair of eggs I fostered for David. He decided his loft was full and left him here to race. So I gave him lots of tosses but kept him when he paired up and went on eggs.
A year later he is simply magnificent, and has a pedigree to match.
Total cost, nothing. It can happen.
Have you got any recent pictures of your Grizzle mate ??
I see him on the board, in the sun, looking sensational. Gleaming, muscular
He sulks off inside and waits for me to put my hand in his box. I can show you some recent pictures of the backs of my hands?
I come across this bird Murray, i know you always chat about Thone birds, now this is a great bird to enrich the blood in any loft.Murray wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 3:41 am Sometimes though, you can just get lucky. Be in the right place at the right time. I was. My big grizzle Thone' cock was one of a pair of eggs I fostered for David. He decided his loft was full and left him here to race. So I gave him lots of tosses but kept him when he paired up and went on eggs.
A year later he is simply magnificent, and has a pedigree to match.
Total cost, nothing. It can happen.