Chatting to Christoph this morning, training on young birds going well. Leon is working on keeping the immune system topped up, 2 training flights a day. Distance moving up so nutrition and his mix is playing its part..
This is his mix for the young birds, he makes this once a week to keep the immune system topped up.
1 Kg of food mix, then a table spoon of each product. when mixed put cling film over and put it in the fridge for 4 hours.. Later mix with the feed and let dry.
Immune system
I am not sure about 'topping up' immune systems. We are all created with an immune system. Without a working immune system no animal would survive 48 hours before bacteria and viruses overwhelmed them.
Exposure to germs and diseases is what challenges and strengthens the immune system.
If we are sick or malnourished, or our immune system has been weakened by repeated vaccinations, we may not be able to overcome an infection. If we are in normal health we should be able to catch an illness, get sick, fight it off and come out with a new army of antibodies.
I am a bit dubious about claims that "New product X" will make the immune system stronger.
How?
Exposure to germs and diseases is what challenges and strengthens the immune system.
If we are sick or malnourished, or our immune system has been weakened by repeated vaccinations, we may not be able to overcome an infection. If we are in normal health we should be able to catch an illness, get sick, fight it off and come out with a new army of antibodies.
I am a bit dubious about claims that "New product X" will make the immune system stronger.
How?
Greetings from the land down under. 
Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for verily, he shall not be disappointed.
Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for verily, he shall not be disappointed.
Composition
Composition: Yeasts and parts thereof 42%, calcium carbonate, vegetal carbon 8,.0%, lithothamn 2.5%, wheat fibre 2.5%, colostrum 0.2%
Analytical ingredients: Crude Protein 19.0% crude fat: 1.7%, crude fiber 3.9%, ash: 47.0%, sodium 0.19%, calcium 15.6%, methionine 0.8%, lysine 1.1%
Additive per 1000 g: Nutritional additives: trace elements: copper (E4) / glycine copper chelate hydrate 520mg, iron (E1) / glycine iron chelate hydrate 4,800mg, glycine zinc chelate hydrate (3b607) 10,000mg
Technological additives: Substances to reduce the contamination of feed with mycotoxins: Bentonite (1m558) 15,000mg Sensory additives: Aromatic and appetizing stimulants: allium sativum L (CoE 26) 6,000mg, cinnamomum zeylanicum Bl. (CoE 133) 6,000mg
Description
Immunbooster
Immunbooster stimulates the attention and reaction time of the immune system and thus the health of the pigeons from the inside. For the first time, we use functional trace elements such as copper and zinc in the Immunbooster, which are extremely suitable for the pigeons and round off the recipe of this innovation with a mycotoxin binder (Aflatoxin B1). As in the Jungtierpulver, the immunbooster contains prebiotic components, alliin, and colostrum to support the pigeons in stress phases.
Composition: Yeasts and parts thereof 42%, calcium carbonate, vegetal carbon 8,.0%, lithothamn 2.5%, wheat fibre 2.5%, colostrum 0.2%
Analytical ingredients: Crude Protein 19.0% crude fat: 1.7%, crude fiber 3.9%, ash: 47.0%, sodium 0.19%, calcium 15.6%, methionine 0.8%, lysine 1.1%
Additive per 1000 g: Nutritional additives: trace elements: copper (E4) / glycine copper chelate hydrate 520mg, iron (E1) / glycine iron chelate hydrate 4,800mg, glycine zinc chelate hydrate (3b607) 10,000mg
Technological additives: Substances to reduce the contamination of feed with mycotoxins: Bentonite (1m558) 15,000mg Sensory additives: Aromatic and appetizing stimulants: allium sativum L (CoE 26) 6,000mg, cinnamomum zeylanicum Bl. (CoE 133) 6,000mg
Description
Immunbooster
Immunbooster stimulates the attention and reaction time of the immune system and thus the health of the pigeons from the inside. For the first time, we use functional trace elements such as copper and zinc in the Immunbooster, which are extremely suitable for the pigeons and round off the recipe of this innovation with a mycotoxin binder (Aflatoxin B1). As in the Jungtierpulver, the immunbooster contains prebiotic components, alliin, and colostrum to support the pigeons in stress phases.
Moorgold
Bowel cleanse
Firm droppings
Userfriendly
Moorgold is a pure concentrate of healing mud.
Description
Moorgold is a pure concentrate of healing mud. The humic acids contained in the intestine bind harmful substances and thus promote the natural discharge from the body. The new formula also contains special fibers, causing firm droppings after two to three feedings with Moorgold and the digestion is affected positively. The new formula of Moorgold is gel-like, which makes it particularly user-friendly and efficient.
Bowel cleanse
Firm droppings
Userfriendly
Moorgold is a pure concentrate of healing mud.
Description
Moorgold is a pure concentrate of healing mud. The humic acids contained in the intestine bind harmful substances and thus promote the natural discharge from the body. The new formula also contains special fibers, causing firm droppings after two to three feedings with Moorgold and the digestion is affected positively. The new formula of Moorgold is gel-like, which makes it particularly user-friendly and efficient.
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Anthony webster
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Top pigeons are super strong u never remember them ever looking unwell,,the weedy sickling looking ones never make it there born that way ,only way to boost a immune system is by vaccination this exposes them to the virus and gers there antibodies working so there immune to that strain of virus, all the other stuff is for emptying how pockets lol
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Anthony webster
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Devo ,zeolite will do more than all them products n last years for penny's pal ,,zeolite is a product from earth just like milk thistle that helps but its super cheap.
Yes Antony you make a good point, i do like the milk thistle for the birds liver. like i say we will all have different views on what product we will use. This is just showing how others in Europe look after their birds.Anthony webster wrote: ↑Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:01 am Devo ,zeolite will do more than all them products n last years for penny's pal ,,zeolite is a product from earth just like milk thistle that helps but its super cheap.
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Anthony webster
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Zeolite removes all toxins from the body and allows the body to get every bit of nutrition from its food available,,
Read about Zeolite devo but it's cheap so not good for pigeon companies to Rob ya ,just like yellow drops 10quid for 100ml when you buy 1000ml from koi carp shop for 10quid ,,
There's stuff that work n stuff that does nothing 95 percent do nothing for pigeons.
Read about Zeolite devo but it's cheap so not good for pigeon companies to Rob ya ,just like yellow drops 10quid for 100ml when you buy 1000ml from koi carp shop for 10quid ,,
There's stuff that work n stuff that does nothing 95 percent do nothing for pigeons.
I tell you another good option that is excellent and good value for money - molasses
https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/pro ... sugar-500g
https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/gol-ui/pro ... sugar-500g