I agree Goose but Andy only lost 1 cock I believe to he started a open loft when 2 more went this last month
So he can select lads in your area might not be able to
So what I posted is what I would do if I had 12 cocks and had 11 left to I went open loft .
He isn’t at your stage or even mine strike wise
I lost 5 real good ones but still selected the same as my strikes are not as bad as yours , Andy appears to be in a good position than either of us
I would move on any cocks that haven’t scored still at the point Andy’s at
There may be a point he can’t but for now he can and not many yearlings get quicker
Good practice/training.
Absolutely wasn't doubting your advice pal. I'll be honest it's probably envy as much as anything that we're unable to.do itNeilA wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 1:21 pm I agree Goose but Andy only lost 1 cock I believe to he started a open loft when 2 more went this last month
So he can select lads in your area might not be able to
So what I posted is what I would do if I had 12 cocks and had 11 left to I went open loft .
He isn’t at your stage or even mine strike wise
I lost 5 real good ones but still selected the same as my strikes are not as bad as yours , Andy appears to be in a good position than either of us
I would move on any cocks that haven’t scored still at the point Andy’s at
There may be a point he can’t but for now he can and not many yearlings get quicker

goose1 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 12:39 pmI hope you understand I'm never having a pop even if it comes across that way sometimes. I just like to try and say how I see things. I know you were a top class fancier and obviously your insight and contribution on sites such as this should be greatly appreciated by all.
I nrever think you're having a pop and I'm not trying to advocate my way is the only way. My way makes sense to me because it was a path I followed with success, and it's a path that I've help (and am helping) others with too
The way you and Igo about birds isn't drastically dis-similar
You consult a respected vet before the season starts to be sure your birds are in good nick. I respect that
You're prepared to back your own judgement and step in and treat (like you did with respiratory if you feel something amiss) - I respect that
And I know full well you go and acquire some really good birds - I have particular respect for your hen 13N18887
I think members are very pleased, to have information shared on any topic. There is so much to learn in this sport, and everyday we can learn more. This will help keeping our birds in very good health, so my message to all. Keep sharing information, Knowledge is the key to the sport.
Not a truer word ever saidDevo1956 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 04, 2024 4:04 pm I think members are very pleased, to have information shared on any topic. There is so much to learn in this sport, and everyday we can learn more. This will help keeping our birds in very good health, so my message to all. Keep sharing information, Knowledge is the key to the sport.



Sadies Lofts home of decent birds just a useless loft manager, and now a confirmed loser but proud



I do thank and appreciate members for their advice.
Yes Neil I am looking at sprint racing now and I do want to get back to winning again. I probably haven’t got the right birds at present to do this but I don’t really want to go down the path of having to buy in a lot of new stock. I wouldn’t really get any enjoyment out of doing it that way. I would rather test and select from what I’ve got. You would be very hard pushed to get any pigeons in the combine results multiple times as there are hardly any pigeons from any member that achieves that. Every race this year has been won by a different member. This year I started out with high hopes and was enjoying the racing but because of all the personal problems over the past couple of months things haven’t gone to plan.
The next problem is the young bird program.
I have 9 youngbird races. 5 are from 34 miles, 2 from 57 miles, 1 from 102 miles and the longest 128 miles. How do members suggest I approach such a crap program? The bulk of the birds with the combine will be going 20 miles North of me and with the 3 counties probably about the same 20 miles South of me. I do only have 14 youngsters.
Yes Neil I am looking at sprint racing now and I do want to get back to winning again. I probably haven’t got the right birds at present to do this but I don’t really want to go down the path of having to buy in a lot of new stock. I wouldn’t really get any enjoyment out of doing it that way. I would rather test and select from what I’ve got. You would be very hard pushed to get any pigeons in the combine results multiple times as there are hardly any pigeons from any member that achieves that. Every race this year has been won by a different member. This year I started out with high hopes and was enjoying the racing but because of all the personal problems over the past couple of months things haven’t gone to plan.
The next problem is the young bird program.
I have 9 youngbird races. 5 are from 34 miles, 2 from 57 miles, 1 from 102 miles and the longest 128 miles. How do members suggest I approach such a crap program? The bulk of the birds with the combine will be going 20 miles North of me and with the 3 counties probably about the same 20 miles South of me. I do only have 14 youngsters.
Back just enjoying club racing for the time being.
I've not read through this whole topic yet, I'll catch up with it over the weekend, but this certainly seems to be the way the top sprint fliers in our club/Fed seem to do it too.
I used to train a lot back in the day but since starting back up again I've not played much attention to it, I've got lazy !! I've not been too bothered due to my birds being on open loft and only really being interested in the longer races, however I am starting to realise that if I want to get in the mix from the shorter races too then I need to put more effort in.