Always looking for a bargain.

[Buster121]

I dont think i will answer this, i will leave it to other members. But dont mention names.

Why not devo ?
I’m not just saying this pigeon I mean any pigeon
Totally get the hope is like race horses the blood comes through but just seems that big names even further back in the ped are important than say UK actual winners at the front of the ped

Neil, i keep saying we all have different views on each subject. and that is your view. Many people dont look at a pedigree, they may be fancy names in the sport. But the sport has moved on, and so it should.
It would be great to buy a bird very close to the tree, but that comes at a price. A price that some cannot afford, so i like to think outside the box. And look for something of value for some, i have spent money in the past.
On good quality birds, and had great joy in breeding. But those days have gone, so what joy i get now. i would say it is different to some other members. You seek, you like and you buy.

I have birds in my loft that cost 4k and upwards each best birds I have are either home bred or gifted birds and bred down from them

[MIL]

If your Stock cost 4k and upwards each that doesn’t make them good birds
Some expensive birds are good birds. Some are not
Some cheap birds are good. Some are not
A prospective buyer just needs to have their head screwed on

I ‘think’ I paid £500 for The Assassin in 2000. My most expensive buy
He won over £2000 in 9 races
I sold him for almost £4000
At a guess i would say he’s responsible for over 300 x 1st

[NeilA]

I dont think i will answer this, i will leave it to other members. But dont mention names.

Why not devo ?
I’m not just saying this pigeon I mean any pigeon
Totally get the hope is like race horses the blood comes through but just seems that big names even further back in the ped are important than say UK actual winners at the front of the ped

Neil, i keep saying we all have different views on each subject. and that is your view. Many people dont look at a pedigree, they may be fancy names in the sport. But the sport has moved on, and so it should.
It would be great to buy a bird very close to the tree, but that comes at a price. A price that some cannot afford, so i like to think outside the box. And look for something of value for some, i have spent money in the past.
On good quality birds, and had great joy in breeding. But those days have gone, so what joy i get now. i would say it is different to some other members. You seek, you like and you buy.

Don’t agree Devo we have different views as you say
Mike just secured me 8 to race from a line that works here very cheap
Cheaper than people would imagine
My dam of 5 fed winners was £80 her brother won the fed 3 times before I got her
I have a daughter of Ling brothers last combine winner that bred 1-3-6 fed since ybs last year she was £100
My old fvw cocks was triple fed winner before I got him for £350 he’s bred me stacks of winners over 8 years
I have a new cock £100 Mike found for me
Not the fashion but that’s never come into my head to concern me yet Mike is my friend and a expert on these matters I don’t have a clue and he knows I have nothing expensive

The birds that are expensive have to come from older strains at some point so would you not be better sourcing from actual winners near to the bird you end up with

[MIL]

If you want me to find a good pigeon for £1000 i can do that

If you want a good one for £100 i can do that too

The only reason your £100 cock was £100 was that he’s not a fashionable family. If he was he’s a £1750 pjgeon

Next YB season i expect his YB to be pleasing you

[Devo1956]

Why not devo ?
I’m not just saying this pigeon I mean any pigeon
Totally get the hope is like race horses the blood comes through but just seems that big names even further back in the ped are important than say UK actual winners at the front of the ped

Neil, i keep saying we all have different views on each subject. and that is your view. Many people dont look at a pedigree, they may be fancy names in the sport. But the sport has moved on, and so it should.
It would be great to buy a bird very close to the tree, but that comes at a price. A price that some cannot afford, so i like to think outside the box. And look for something of value for some, i have spent money in the past.
On good quality birds, and had great joy in breeding. But those days have gone, so what joy i get now. i would say it is different to some other members. You seek, you like and you buy.

Don’t agree Devo we have different views as you say
Mike just secured me 8 to race from a line that works here very cheap
Cheaper than people would imagine
My dam of 5 fed winners was £80 her brother won the fed 3 times before I got her
I have a daughter of Ling brothers last combine winner that bred 1-3-6 fed since ybs last year she was £100
My old fvw cocks was triple fed winner before I got him for £350 he’s bred me stacks of winners over 8 years
I have a new cock £100 Mike found for me
Not the fashion but that’s never come into my head to concern me yet Mike is my friend and a expert on these matters I don’t have a clue and he knows I have nothing expensive

The birds that are expensive have to come from older strains at some point so would you not be better sourcing from actual winners near to the bird you end up with

Well Neil, well done to you on getting good birds cheap. I hope they do very well for you, and well done to Mike for finding you some good birds.
Is that it now, lets move on.

[NeilA]

It’s only a different view Devo
Just trying to help you breed winners by finding good pigeons not paper if that’s the aim
No offence was intended

[Devo1956]

It’s only a different view Devo
Just trying to help you breed winners by finding good pigeons not paper if that’s the aim
No offence was intended

None taken mate, your doing well flying. So i am pleased for you and your birds. The difference is i can not keep birds myself. So OLR and my mate taking a couple will do for me.
All the best in future racing and breeding Neil.

[NeilA]

is the concept not the same that we both strive to achieve be it one loft or racing the traditional way ?
Or is one loft a different type of pigeon
Is the ped above more suitable for one loft racing
I don’t have a clue it could well be so

that’s a genuine question I don’t want you to think I know.the answer as I don’t being as I have never sent to a one loft race

[MIL]

There are some pigeons Neil (certain lines) that seem to do exceptionally well in One Loft Races

Probably the best in the modern era is that of "Romario"

But I don't think that his descendants "switch on" just because they're in the One Loft Arena

They do so because they're fundamentally just a bloody good pigeon

[Devo1956]

is the concept not the same that we both strive to achieve be it one loft or racing the traditional way ?
Or is one loft a different type of pigeon
Is the ped above more suitable for one loft racing
I don’t have a clue it could well be so

that’s a genuine question I don’t want you to think I know.the answer as I don’t being as I have never sent to a one loft race

Neil, there is a big difference to racing and OLR, in the household racing you are in control of your birds. In full controls of feeding, racing, health and making sure all tasks are carried out 365 days per year.
In OLR you are in control of breeding, or finding someone you can trust to breed you some youngsters. Once the birds enter the loft in OLR, that is it. You have to sit and wait to see how they progress.

I would say, not so good as racing yourself, but still being part of the sport. So that is why i am pleased to be getting some gold rings next year, so my mate will race the youngsters.;

I hope that explains it for you Neil.