Racing pigeons problem with water viens

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I was told about this problem in Germany, i was told Ernst Dieter clarify also problems with water-viens. He travel the whole year to fanciers in Germany and check (classify) pigeons and water-viens.

what are members thoughts on this subject?

Something i was reading of a good racing family in Germany.
The rise to the top
The Steffl family has its own homepage where they publish their latest results in pigeon racing. Franz has been passionate about pigeon racing from an early age; he competed in his first race back in 1976. Unfortunately his career was halted after a severe accident, leaving him in the hospital for several months. He made his comeback in 1998. We were allowed to use a short excerpt from a text that they published on their own website:

„The year 1998 marked an important event in the further development of this loft. We purchased a second handed garden loft in the autumn of 1998, and had it installed on a new piece of land next to our home. We started winning top prizes in 1999, including a few first prizes. The 2000 season proved a great success for the old birds as well. At that time we had discovered that water was seeping through the floor of the floor. We managed to solve the problem, and our pigeons suddenly started to perform a lot better. They won five prizes in 2000 but that was just a starting point. Our colleague Ernst-Dieter Jacobi checked the loft for water leakage a second time, after which he also categorized the different breeding pigeons in this loft. An outstanding 99 season enabled us to join the championship in the RV for the first time, and 2000 proved an unprecedented season for us: 1st championship RV, 1st championship yearlings RV, 1st championship RV hens, 1st Championship RV young birds, the best hen and the best young bird in the RV, and champion in the CFC Club Hohenlohe! The only championship in which we had to settle for second was that of the RV championship cocks.
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I know what water-viens are. But what have they to do with pigeons? or are you talking about dehydration in pigeons?
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Water viens have negativ radiation on humans or animals. Ernst Dieter said to me, if you sleep or work for longer time near a water viens, you get canker. A lot of people call him who have health problems. And the most people of this, have canker. If Ernst Dieter visit this people and check their house about water viens, 80 to 90 percent of these people sleep near or directly at a water veins. That's really crazy! your organism can't regenerate, cells can't renew themselves. also pigeons have problems with water viens. they can't orient at flights, If they stay in their loft on a water viens. thats what i know about water viens.

This is what i was told by Jens in Germany.
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Devo1956 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:12 pm Water viens have negativ radiation on humans or animals. Ernst Dieter said to me, if you sleep or work for longer time near a water viens, you get canker. A lot of people call him who have health problems. And the most people of this, have canker. If Ernst Dieter visit this people and check their house about water viens, 80 to 90 percent of these people sleep near or directly at a water veins. That's really crazy! your organism can't regenerate, cells can't renew themselves. also pigeons have problems with water viens. they can't orient at flights, If they stay in their loft on a water viens. thats what i know about water viens.

This is what i was told by Jens in Germany.
There a lots of things that have negative impact on health issues but people having been living with them since time began. The annual natural dose of radiation for the average person in the UK is 2.3 mSv. Cornwall the annual radiation dose is 7.8 mSv which is more than three times the UK average. It hasn't stopped the NFC being won in Cornwall many times.
Water viens are everywhere. Southern and eastern England see a greater use of groundwater from aquifers. The underlying geology in these regions often features porous rock formations that serve as natural reservoirs for the percolated rainwater. It too has not stopped pigeons winning many NFC & International races (others have to fly over this area)
If pigeons couldn't orientate over these water viens they wouldn't come home but there is nowhere I know where this does not happen.
Fanciers come up with endless reasons for losing pigeons and possible causes, but until these effect EVERY bird they remain theories.
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king wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:43 pm
Devo1956 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:12 pm Water viens have negativ radiation on humans or animals. Ernst Dieter said to me, if you sleep or work for longer time near a water viens, you get canker. A lot of people call him who have health problems. And the most people of this, have canker. If Ernst Dieter visit this people and check their house about water viens, 80 to 90 percent of these people sleep near or directly at a water veins. That's really crazy! your organism can't regenerate, cells can't renew themselves. also pigeons have problems with water viens. they can't orient at flights, If they stay in their loft on a water viens. thats what i know about water viens.

This is what i was told by Jens in Germany.
There a lots of things that have negative impact on health issues but people having been living with them since time began. The annual natural dose of radiation for the average person in the UK is 2.3 mSv. Cornwall the annual radiation dose is 7.8 mSv which is more than three times the UK average. It hasn't stopped the NFC being won in Cornwall many times.
Water viens are everywhere. Southern and eastern England see a greater use of groundwater from aquifers. The underlying geology in these regions often features porous rock formations that serve as natural reservoirs for the percolated rainwater. It too has not stopped pigeons winning many NFC & International races (others have to fly over this area)
If pigeons couldn't orientate over these water viens they wouldn't come home but there is nowhere I know where this does not happen.
Fanciers come up with endless reasons for losing pigeons and possible causes, but until these effect EVERY bird they remain theories.
Yes King i do agree about different Theories, but i just wonder why these good flyers use this guy to visit their lofts. When they have problems,
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Devo1956 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:47 pm
king wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:43 pm
Devo1956 wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 3:12 pm Water viens have negativ radiation on humans or animals. Ernst Dieter said to me, if you sleep or work for longer time near a water viens, you get canker. A lot of people call him who have health problems. And the most people of this, have canker. If Ernst Dieter visit this people and check their house about water viens, 80 to 90 percent of these people sleep near or directly at a water veins. That's really crazy! your organism can't regenerate, cells can't renew themselves. also pigeons have problems with water viens. they can't orient at flights, If they stay in their loft on a water viens. thats what i know about water viens.

This is what i was told by Jens in Germany.
There a lots of things that have negative impact on health issues but people having been living with them since time began. The annual natural dose of radiation for the average person in the UK is 2.3 mSv. Cornwall the annual radiation dose is 7.8 mSv which is more than three times the UK average. It hasn't stopped the NFC being won in Cornwall many times.
Water viens are everywhere. Southern and eastern England see a greater use of groundwater from aquifers. The underlying geology in these regions often features porous rock formations that serve as natural reservoirs for the percolated rainwater. It too has not stopped pigeons winning many NFC & International races (others have to fly over this area)
If pigeons couldn't orientate over these water viens they wouldn't come home but there is nowhere I know where this does not happen.
Fanciers come up with endless reasons for losing pigeons and possible causes, but until these effect EVERY bird they remain theories.
Yes King i do agree about different Theories, but i just wonder why these good flyers use this guy to visit their lofts. When they have problems,
If they do what can he do? Tell them to move? If it's something in the environment he can't change anything.
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Could it not be because the fanciers in the example had damp in there lofts when they had a bad run more than the actual vein
I have only read it quickly but did notice they had damp
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I was reading about an OLR in Germany and it says this about the loft. according to a dowser, is free of water veins.The first thing they did was to check the site for water viens. They found it to be clear so built a new loft on the site. So could this be a answer to big losses at some OLR?
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You're mellowing George

That's the first time I've seen you use "big losses" and OLR in the same sentence :)
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MIL wrote: Mon Aug 19, 2024 4:57 pm You're mellowing George

That's the first time I've seen you use "big losses" and OLR in the same sentence :)
You are part right Mike, that is why i am taking my time. Checking different OLR and looking at the Stats, of birds entered and final race numbers. ;) ;)
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