Dna Certificates

[Spieker-Loft]

I remember when i was at your lofts Leon, your Dad was telling me about the sex of the bird can be checked.

Was that by handling or DNA Devo
I know you can a couple of ways around the ringing age but would love to sex my older ybs each year

We have a couple methods to tell their age by young already by ourself. But sometimes to be 100% sure theres a place nearby we send 3 feathers to from the youngster and 2-3 days later we get back a certificate with the sex of the pigeon. Costs us about 10€

[Spieker-Loft]

What is everyones thoughts on Dna Certificates for pigeons to ensure that the bird is 100% from said parents. Does it increase the pigeons value? Does it increase the trust for the customer? Or is it actually all for nothing

I wouldn’t spend any real money on a bird without it. All my breeders have one so I know exactly what I have. I have also tested all the breeds for the performance genes, and that has thrown up some interesting results.

Could you maybe tell me a bit more about the performance genes? Theres a company here that does them aswell and i was rather curious about it. Is it only for racing genes. or also for breeding? And what exactly does it tell you

[Devo1956]

A study demonstrated that racing pigeons with the T/T genotype showed significantly better racing performance in long distance races compared to those carrying G/G. This test determines which alleles are present and the possible outcomes are G/G, G/T and T/T.

https://www.feanixbio.com/pigeon-tests/ ... nd%20T%2FT.

[Spieker-Loft]

Interesting. The german company that does these offer such a varity of tests i might have to read through all of them

[Devo1956]

Interesting. The german company that does these offer such a varity of tests i might have to read through all of them

Yes good to have a choice Leon, does it take long for results?

[Spieker-Loft]

Interesting. The german company that does these offer such a varity of tests i might have to read through all of them

Yes good to have a choice Leon, does it take long for results?

I think its about 2 weeks until you get the results

[Steve Howells]

What is everyones thoughts on Dna Certificates for pigeons to ensure that the bird is 100% from said parents. Does it increase the pigeons value? Does it increase the trust for the customer? Or is it actually all for nothing

I wouldn’t spend any real money on a bird without it. All my breeders have one so I know exactly what I have. I have also tested all the breeds for the performance genes, and that has thrown up some interesting results.

Could you maybe tell me a bit more about the performance genes? Theres a company here that does them aswell and i was rather curious about it. Is it only for racing genes. or also for breeding? And what exactly does it tell you

Hi Leon

I use this company https://www.neornilab.be/en/tests-testi ... genotyping They also give some information on the research you can also read it in Deutsch so it might be easier than me trying to explain it.

[Steve Howells]

I wouldn’t spend any real money on a bird without it. All my breeders have one so I know exactly what I have. I have also tested all the breeds for the performance genes, and that has thrown up some interesting results.

Could you maybe tell me a bit more about the performance genes? Theres a company here that does them aswell and i was rather curious about it. Is it only for racing genes. or also for breeding? And what exactly does it tell you

Hi Leon

I use this company https://www.neornilab.be/en/tests-testi ... genotyping They also give some information on the research you can also read it in Deutsch so it might be easier than me trying to explain it.

[Steve Howells]

A study demonstrated that racing pigeons with the T/T genotype showed significantly better racing performance in long distance races compared to those carrying G/G. This test determines which alleles are present and the possible outcomes are G/G, G/T and T/T.

https://www.feanixbio.com/pigeon-tests/ ... nd%20T%2FT.

I've just retired a 4 year old hen to stock, she's scored well on the road and two good places at 520 miles once 13hr48 on the wing only 5 fed birds on the day and once at 11hrs 45. She has tested AB for LDHA and TT for CRY1

[MIL]

The best I know at this sort of thing is Ruben Lanckriet

We were on the PIPA forum together about 20 years ago

https://www.pigen.be/about-pigen