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That time of the year, the racing season is over. Plans are getting set on what is needed for improvement. we all have a budget but what if you could go out and choose. What would you be looking for?


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Devo1956 wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:25 am That time of the year, the racing season is over. Plans are getting set on what is needed for improvement. we all have a budget but what if you could go out and choose. What would you be looking for?


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Great question. And i think the answer for myself and what i feel like should be for alot of others shouldn't even be a pigeon but instead be a 100% working loft. Because the best pigeon in the world is still an average one in the wrong loft and wrong hands. and i feel like even out of an average bird you can squeze out alot of its in the right loft and the right hands. Its something i got told when i started the sport a few years ago that instead of going around and purchasing the most expensive pigeons everywhere i should start at the core and get that right aka the loft. Proper air flow, temperature etc. So if i had a choice to get whatever i could then it would be a new loft where everything would be correct. Because even now i think there are still flaws in our loft that are to late to get fixed now tho that its constructed.
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above is best answer this thred will have imo more never means better where money involved just means some benefits but not always the buyer
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Not sure in that Leon
I have seen winners to all types of lofts even ones on a farm falling apart winning combine average against 1500 lofts
Dry and air flow is all you need together with warmth from the sun for the April form
also I have visited beautiful lofts that win nothing with fortunes spent on pigeons
Maybe they were the wrong pigeons but with expensive pedigrees

What I do know is if your birds are poor and breeding more poor birds you won’t win no matter what you feed or house them in as long as the basics are right the best will perform better than poor birds in a lovely expensive loft

For 6 years I have been going to replace my loft as its old and untidy it stood empty of for 17 years and wasn’t new to start with yet I’m to scared to even though I have drawn ideas of how I want the new one to be .
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NeilA wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:48 am Not sure in that Leon
I have seen winners to all types of lofts even ones on a farm falling apart winning combine average against 1500 lofts
Dry and air flow is all you need together with warmth from the sun for the April form
also I have visited beautiful lofts that win nothing with fortunes spent on pigeons
Maybe they were the wrong pigeons but with expensive pedigrees

What I do know is if your birds are poor and breeding more poor birds you won’t win no matter what you feed or house them in as long as the basics are right the best will perform better than poor birds in a lovely expensive loft

For 6 years I have been going to replace my loft as its old and untidy it stood empty of for 17 years and wasn’t new to start with yet I’m to scared to even though I have drawn ideas of how I want the new one to be .
yes but they were right lofts which is what he's on about I think you don't want fancy loft just yours because it works well
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"The home" is paramount

I've verified over 100 x 1st National / Classic winners and i've seen all sorts / sizes / shapes of lofts

Some were brand new, air-con, heaters etc

Some were 50 years old and held together by..... Well, little more than chewing gum really
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worm wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:43 pm
NeilA wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:48 am Not sure in that Leon
I have seen winners to all types of lofts even ones on a farm falling apart winning combine average against 1500 lofts
Dry and air flow is all you need together with warmth from the sun for the April form
also I have visited beautiful lofts that win nothing with fortunes spent on pigeons
Maybe they were the wrong pigeons but with expensive pedigrees

What I do know is if your birds are poor and breeding more poor birds you won’t win no matter what you feed or house them in as long as the basics are right the best will perform better than poor birds in a lovely expensive loft

For 6 years I have been going to replace my loft as its old and untidy it stood empty of for 17 years and wasn’t new to start with yet I’m to scared to even though I have drawn ideas of how I want the new one to be .
yes but they were right lofts which is what he's on about I think you don't want fancy loft just yours because it works well
Leon mentions spending first on the loft Stephen to me a basic functional lift but the pigeons are vital
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NeilA wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:52 pm
worm wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 12:43 pm
NeilA wrote: Wed Oct 09, 2024 9:48 am Not sure in that Leon
I have seen winners to all types of lofts even ones on a farm falling apart winning combine average against 1500 lofts
Dry and air flow is all you need together with warmth from the sun for the April form
also I have visited beautiful lofts that win nothing with fortunes spent on pigeons
Maybe they were the wrong pigeons but with expensive pedigrees

What I do know is if your birds are poor and breeding more poor birds you won’t win no matter what you feed or house them in as long as the basics are right the best will perform better than poor birds in a lovely expensive loft

For 6 years I have been going to replace my loft as its old and untidy it stood empty of for 17 years and wasn’t new to start with yet I’m to scared to even though I have drawn ideas of how I want the new one to be .
yes but they were right lofts which is what he's on about I think you don't want fancy loft just yours because it works well
Leon mentions spending first on the loft Stephen to me a basic functional lift but the pigeons are vital
I've seen some great looking lofts that couldn't fly a kite. And others that were no better than shacks that won everything.
My first loft was the garden shed that was already some 20 years old. Clocked a 3rd prize winner to it in my first ever race.
Given the choice of good birds or a super loft, I'd choose the birds.
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If the loft is second rate there are ways around it, I won 1st club fed section 3rd open NRCC Lerwick to a 7x5 feather board shed that had a tendency to leak a little when it poured with rain, I just never kept many birds in it. If the pigeons are second rate you're sunk.
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Steve Howells wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:25 am If the loft is second rate there are ways around it, I won 1st club fed section 3rd open NRCC Lerwick to a 7x5 feather board shed that had a tendency to leak a little when it poured with rain, I just never kept many birds in it. If the pigeons are second rate you're sunk.

Well done mate
I watched a dvd on fenwick and Howard some years so they flew to an old porta cabin with a leak in the roof so much so fungus had formed into mushroom around it . I thought that’s going a bit far though
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