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king wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 4:48 pm
Spieker-Loft wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 4:25 pm These products yes. and its not to many products either we use 4 in total. Tolamin forte, Tolamin nano, Tolisan Dosto 12 , and tolisan quick.
This did absolute wonders for us the past 2 years. Unfortunately my dumb ass changed things up this year because i wanted to try something new and went with rohnfried and it kinda back fired on me because i went into it kinda clueless and without a plan really. But next year its back to tolisan and i will use the same supplyment plan also for my yearlings for the first time to see how that will work out
Do these products mix well together?
When i have the time in about an hour ill put my exact supplyment system in here what i mix with what at what day etc i dont mind sharing everything
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We used the system purely for youngster so far up to about 200 miles. I will use this same system this year with yearlings to see how it performs there !

Day of return Usually Saturday : Tolisan Amino Forte / Tolisan Nano / Tolisan combi Mix All in the same drinker. Feeding Paloma D100 50% and D12 50%
Sunday : Tolisan Dosto 12 In drinker. Feeding Paloma D100 50% and D12 50%
monday : Tolisan Dosto 12 In Drinker. Feeding Paloma D100 50% and D12 50%
tuesday : Tolisan Quick In drinker. Feeding Paloma D100 50% and D12 50%
wednesday : Tolisan Quick In Drinker. Feeding Paloma D 100 100%
thrusday : Tolisan Amino Forte / Tolisan Nano In same drinker. Feeding Paloma D 100 100%
Friday/Basketing day : Nothing in the water. Paloma D12 100% And Additionally Hemp seeds and Peeled Sunflower seeds.

This is the system i used 2 years in a row with great results with little to non experience in the sport yet. As i said before its from a good friend of ours who won 2x german youngster champion.
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Does mixing different products in the water not reduce the intake
I am not familiar with all the products so
Maybe they are not strong to taste
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What would be the protein fat carbohydrates in the mixture
I guess 100 is high carb ?
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NeilA wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:13 pm What would be the protein fat carbohydrates in the mixture
I guess 100 is high carb ?
d100 is high protein high carbs
d12 is super diat food very lean
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NeilA wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:07 pm Does mixing different products in the water not reduce the intake
I am not familiar with all the products so
Maybe they are not strong to taste
Im not sure but most people here mix stuff together. The companys suggest it aswell that produce these things like rohnfried's racing plan even has 4 products in a drinker and 2 over the food so 6 in total for day of return. Everyone has their opinion on suplyments anyways. i can only base it of what i been told and what i used and its been working perfectly for me
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Spieker-Loft wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:26 pm
NeilA wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:13 pm What would be the protein fat carbohydrates in the mixture
I guess 100 is high carb ?
d100 is high protein high carbs
d12 is super diat food very lean
Could ask why d100 ? Or is the high protein coming from fat lead grains rather than high protein grains only
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Spieker-Loft wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:29 pm
NeilA wrote: Fri Nov 01, 2024 7:07 pm Does mixing different products in the water not reduce the intake
I am not familiar with all the products so
Maybe they are not strong to taste
Im not sure but most people here mix stuff together. The companys suggest it aswell that produce these things like rohnfried's racing plan even has 4 products in a drinker and 2 over the food so 6 in total for day of return. Everyone has their opinion on suplyments anyways. i can only base it of what i been told and what i used and its been working perfectly for me
Yes that’s all you can do
I try to get supplements on the food as i worry about the water intake
I notice you give clean water Friday though is that as you may have a concern
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