The last one for the year

[NeilA]

Mike stick the performance of Elvis on here if you can
Leon can see what I’m saying and what £150 can get you if your not into fashion

"ELVIS" 21N80521
This cock is a G.Son of Mark Bulled's "CHAMPION ROCKY" (Won 1st and 2nd National) and "GABY" the BICC Cholet winner by a clear 5 mins against 3,410 birds


"ELVIS" is the winner of :
3rd Section 4th Open BICC Guernsey 3,400 birds
4th Section 6th Open NFC Guernsey 5,999 birds
1st club, 1st Federation Weymouth 1,122 birds
1st club, 1st Federation Weymouth 1,024 birds
1st club 4th Federation Yeovil 1,648 birds
1st club 15th Federation Weymouth 1,064 birds
1st Section 34th Open BICC Guernsey 5,440 birds
33rd UBI Combine Exeter 2,433 birds

To me that’s a pigeon
Thanks Mike

[MIL]

Yea he has to be top class

He's a multi-performer in high class competition at a variety of distances against good birdage

So yes, he passes the acid test

And in my own experience every multi-performer ALWAYS went on to breed their like

[NeilA]

I agree winners and not one offs you want multiple winners as many as you can get to the left of the pedigree is what you want not fancy names for sell on value
That’s if your in the sport for the Saturdays win
if your in it to buy pigeons sell pedigree then that’s a totally different thing

[Devo1956]

Well done Leon, your choice your money. They are your birds mate, you know what you want in your breeding loft, I am looking forward to your new breeding season.

[CHARLTON34]

Mike stick the performance of Elvis on here if you can
Leon can see what I’m saying and what £150 can get you if your not into fashion

"ELVIS" 21N80521
This cock is a G.Son of Mark Bulled's "CHAMPION ROCKY" (Won 1st and 2nd National) and "GABY" the BICC Cholet winner by a clear 5 mins against 3,410 birds


"ELVIS" is the winner of :
3rd Section 4th Open BICC Guernsey 3,400 birds
4th Section 6th Open NFC Guernsey 5,999 birds
1st club, 1st Federation Weymouth 1,122 birds
1st club, 1st Federation Weymouth 1,024 birds
1st club 4th Federation Yeovil 1,648 birds
1st club 15th Federation Weymouth 1,064 birds
1st Section 34th Open BICC Guernsey 5,440 birds
33rd UBI Combine Exeter 2,433 birds

To me that’s a pigeon
Thanks Mike

Mike would that be from Marks Red Bull family, I know you mentioned Gaby in it's breeding.
Thought that was a mixture of SVR, Sootjens not sure if I've spelt that right & another line i can't remember? all mixed to make this line. You'll correct me if I'm barking up the wrong tree.

[NeilA]

Rocky is mate your correct but was paired to Wilton’s Gaby lines

[MIL]

Well done Leon, your choice your money. They are your birds mate, you know what you want in your breeding loft, I am looking forward to your new breeding season.

Absolutely George, each to their own.

But by putting it up on an open forum Leon is making it available for public consumption and comment, and that's all a coiuple of us are doing.

The Sire looks a decent enough racer, he's scored well on several occasions. That's to be commended

The Dam herself appears to have done nothing herself (aa a breeder) - though she is direct from their very good mating of "Arturo" x "Tila"

The interesting thing is the reference to the money involved




I've seen in recent weeks far superior Leideman pigeons than that go for a lot less money than this

(G.Children of "GOED GRIJS" for £300.00) so we all have our own takes on what a bargain is



Whether he goes on to do well as a breeder only time will tell and I wish you all the best with him Leon

For me, based on the IMAGE ALONE I wouldn't have used him as a feeder.

[Devo1956]

Well done Leon, your choice your money. They are your birds mate, you know what you want in your breeding loft, I am looking forward to your new breeding season.

Absolutely George, each to their own.

But by putting it up on an open forum Leon is making it available for public consumption and comment, and that's all a coiuple of us are doing.

The Sire looks a decent enough racer, he's scored well on several occasions. That's to be commended

The Dam herself appears to have done nothing herself (aa a breeder) - though she is direct from their very good mating of "Arturo" x "Tila"

The interesting thing is the reference to the money involved




I've seen in recent weeks far superior Leideman pigeons than that go for a lot less money than this

(G.Children of "GOED GRIJS" for £300.00) so we all have our own takes on what a bargain is



Whether he goes on to do well as a breeder only time will tell and I wish you all the best with him Leon

For me, based on the IMAGE ALONE I wouldn't have used him as a feeder.

Mike can I just say, your reply is very constructable, and you understand the buying game at its highest level. Like I have said you make a choice and pay your money, and it is your choice based on knowing what you need, to enrich the blood in your breeding, And good on Leon for having a go in this sport. for me I would praise this young flyer for having a go, Everyone do things different in this sport and have their own views, They are not there to be shot down over a post they make on the site. Like I have said good luck Leon, make it happen.

Mike I am sure if you put a post up on the site, saying how much you spent on the bird and about its breeding. You would not get the same response from members, so what is the difference.

[NeilA]

Devo if Leon puts a pigeon on here and says what he paid and that he believes he will get his investment back or words to that effect and the pigeon looks a bag of shit surely we can say we don’t like the pigeon can’t we or do we all have to praise every pigeon Leon puts on as per your post or maybe we don’t post at all in reply not to upset anyone , I guess that the modern way now

I think the photo looks terrible and couldn’t careless if Leon spent £10 or 100k like I say money amounts in what I see as a hobby actually has the opposite on me and I would praise someone who spent little money but wins out of turn through skill and work rate rather than one that buys a pigeon for a few grand sticks the photo up on a public forum and then we can’t post that we don’t like the bird as you don’t think we should .
I would much rather see Leon take a photo of pigeons in his loft that have won or breeding winners without the need to mention money paid etc

I wouldn’t want to upset Leon but do think we should be allowed to give negative views rather than just praise and I wish him good luck with the bird

[Spieker-Loft]

Its all good devo i put the picture and information up here and everyone is entitled to their own opinion on it. I do think im a bit miss understood in 1-2 things that have been said but its fine. I still respect everyones opinion.