I was in the corn shop yesterday wanting some barley as the farm stuff had loads of ears on and I was a bit worried about it on the birds throat incase it lead to issues
I wasn’t keen on the look of the Bamfords re cleaned barley so had a look at VL depurative as they had no straight barley anyway it was £25.60 for 25kg for what really is 70 per cent barley and wheat
Is that the going price in other areas for VL
I think that’s more than there superstar or Gerry
Price of corn
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Hello Neil, I do think due to adverse weather conditions over the last 3 years or so that a lot of crops have failed when planted by farmers e.g barley, wheat, beans etc even if planted have rotted & failed to germinate.
So I think a lot of home grown feed would actually be a poor yield & so go in to animal feed.
The price will always be dictated by how good the crop is in relation to the cost to plant it & if it ends up in animal feed I would say it's borderline as if the farmer makes any profit which in turn they may well have to diversify & move to other crops in the future .
So in answer to you the cost I think will stay high unfortunately, I pay about £16 for breeding mix , barley I can get for £6 a bag local farm, yes it not as good as say Gem's barley, I appreciate like you said about the ear's but you pay your money & take a chance.
So I think a lot of home grown feed would actually be a poor yield & so go in to animal feed.
The price will always be dictated by how good the crop is in relation to the cost to plant it & if it ends up in animal feed I would say it's borderline as if the farmer makes any profit which in turn they may well have to diversify & move to other crops in the future .
So in answer to you the cost I think will stay high unfortunately, I pay about £16 for breeding mix , barley I can get for £6 a bag local farm, yes it not as good as say Gem's barley, I appreciate like you said about the ear's but you pay your money & take a chance.
Good info mate
Normally I do get the £6 farm one but this year there seems so many ears or tails in the bag some a pretty sharp that’s I was thinking could that scratch the throat leading to fungus or a bacteria or canker even ? I do t know as I don’t understand all that
In the end I picked up a beyers barley but that wasn’t cheap either but the cocks will Jane that to mid feb
I was just surprised how much it was for what I always thought was cheaper grains but obviously not from how you explained it
Beans from Bamfords are £14.85 now 20kg and 2 years ago I was paying £10 for 25kg off the farm but he’s not growing them anymore as he doesn’t think it’s worth the effort compared to alternatives
Normally I do get the £6 farm one but this year there seems so many ears or tails in the bag some a pretty sharp that’s I was thinking could that scratch the throat leading to fungus or a bacteria or canker even ? I do t know as I don’t understand all that
In the end I picked up a beyers barley but that wasn’t cheap either but the cocks will Jane that to mid feb
I was just surprised how much it was for what I always thought was cheaper grains but obviously not from how you explained it
Beans from Bamfords are £14.85 now 20kg and 2 years ago I was paying £10 for 25kg off the farm but he’s not growing them anymore as he doesn’t think it’s worth the effort compared to alternatives
The price of corn has increased year on year and will continue to do so even farm sourced, there has always been a premium for branded corn.
The only way to deal with this on a fixed income is to reduce the number of birds kept, who knows it could even improve the quality of those that are left.
The only way to deal with this on a fixed income is to reduce the number of birds kept, who knows it could even improve the quality of those that are left.
Still seems a bit heavy for wheat and barley mostly but I guess it’s the way of thingsBowbroom wrote: ↑Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:36 pm The price of corn has increased year on year and will continue to do so even farm sourced, there has always been a premium for branded corn.
The only way to deal with this on a fixed income is to reduce the number of birds kept, who knows it could even improve the quality of those that are left.
We live in an area called the Wimerra, a big grain growing area. Every day we see grain trains, big long ones pulled by 3 locomotives going past. Millions of tonnes of grain. and yet the price goes up and up.
Why?
Tax.
The cost of the fuel the farmers use is mostly tax. The price the farmers get includes tax and then they pay tax on it. The Diesel the trains use is mostly tax and the freight cost to the grain company includes tax.
The grain changes hands a couple of times before it reaches the retail store, and tax is paid on it each time.
Then we go to buy a bag of pigeon feed and recoil at the price. The retailer has to put a big enough mark up on to pay the various taxes he is faced with.
A tonne of wheat in a field is not worth a huge amount. But by the time the government has taxed it's production, transport and sale several times, it's a valuable commodity.
And then they pay all that money to people who have produced......nothing.
Why?
Tax.
The cost of the fuel the farmers use is mostly tax. The price the farmers get includes tax and then they pay tax on it. The Diesel the trains use is mostly tax and the freight cost to the grain company includes tax.
The grain changes hands a couple of times before it reaches the retail store, and tax is paid on it each time.
Then we go to buy a bag of pigeon feed and recoil at the price. The retailer has to put a big enough mark up on to pay the various taxes he is faced with.
A tonne of wheat in a field is not worth a huge amount. But by the time the government has taxed it's production, transport and sale several times, it's a valuable commodity.
And then they pay all that money to people who have produced......nothing.
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Of course it varies on where you are and what you are buying.
On average you would pay about Au$28 to 30.00 for a 20 kilo bag of a generic race mix.
I bought a bag of peas, good machine dressed ones last week. Au$31.50.
Wheat, maize, milo, generally about $20 -24.00
I priced a 20 kilo bag of saff at the grain store, $48.50.
On average you would pay about Au$28 to 30.00 for a 20 kilo bag of a generic race mix.
I bought a bag of peas, good machine dressed ones last week. Au$31.50.
Wheat, maize, milo, generally about $20 -24.00
I priced a 20 kilo bag of saff at the grain store, $48.50.
Greetings from the land down under. 
Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for verily, he shall not be disappointed.

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Yea. Of course this is out in the country. In the big city where overheads are higher it might be a bit more.
Sometimes we get a bigger order for the club members and it is much cheaper. Like peas for $24.00, Wheat for $18.00.....
Sometimes we get a bigger order for the club members and it is much cheaper. Like peas for $24.00, Wheat for $18.00.....
Greetings from the land down under. 
Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for verily, he shall not be disappointed.

Blessed is he who expecteth nothing, for verily, he shall not be disappointed.