RPRA Rule Changes

[Ian Evans]

Had another look and still can’t find any transition references?

That's because the CEO hasn't published the proposal as submitted. The reference to the transition period was at the top of page 1 of the proposed rule changes.

[Bowbroom]

Right so your proposition as published is incomplete?

[Diamond Dave]

Maybe my mistake and not actually included in the proposals but in the opening statement.
Apologies for that.
The fact of the matter is that there WILL be a transition period and only the ridiculous would expect it to be sorted overnight by "waving a magic wand"
It is bound to have teething problems but offers a far simpler, better and up to date system of governance than the archaic "closed-shop" that is in existance at present.

[Bowbroom]

Thought I hadn’t missed it. Clearly that’s your opinion others may have a different view.

It’s now all down to what happens on the 28th, I suspect it might not be straight forward

[Diamond Dave]

Only those from the Triassic, Jurassic and Cretacious periods would consider it any other way. Unfortunately,
the membership is mostly made up of that generation
along with those free-loaders that abuse their positions of office and will look to preserve those positions at whatever cost to the lay fancier.
Not much hope really - is there!!!?

[goose1]

There's 2 points I'd like to address from the content above.

The RPRA needs to be run as a business but a social business with its core aims and objectives to be to provide the basis for pigeons racing and the advancement of pigeon racing. There are plenty of social business that operate on this basis. I've worked with and helped develop over 100 such social business. They are 'not for profit' with any surplus reinvested into the community. In this case the pigeon racing community.
The RPRA is a business. It employs staff, owns assets, pays corporation tax etc etc.

The second is the point as to whether these proposals have something to do with 'scores being settled ' . My question is what scores and by whom ??

Let's for the record put one thing straight. I personally am not.motivated by settling scores. My core aim is to get the RPRA on a Prosperous setting and the sport in general. Anyone who knows me will know this. Those of you who don't please take the time to listen to the You tube interviews. Everything I have included in the proposition is what I have believed is right since 2016 when I took the job. The only thing that has changed during that journey is the timing of removing the regions.

How did you come to leave your employment with the RPRA? Totally understand if it's not something you want to put on an open forum I'm just curious. My previous comment about settling scores certainly wasn't aimed at anyone in particular so I find your response interesting

So if your comment isn't aimed at anyone what does my leaving the employment of the RPRA have to do with anything ?

My comment was not aimed at anyone hence why nobody's previous comments were quoted but I had a feeling you would feel the need to reply and I was just curious as to why? I may know more on the subject than you think but I'll be saying no more on this particular topic in fact I won't even be clicking on the thread again. If these changes are implemented which I think they may well be this time, in my opinion I think there's a very good chance there won't even be an RPRA in 12 months time. But you people can bash on with your saviours mentality, only time will tell if you are correct and I, like id imagine anyone else who enjoys this sport hope yous can fulfil what yous are promising to do. I'll finish again with a word of warning to folk, all that glitters isn't gold.

[Andy]

I know there is some they may be against the modern way of doing things but it is something that can’t be got away from. People were against ETS but now the majority of fanciers have it, all of our club does. Most clubs now only take payments via bank transfer. Very few by cash or cheque.
Anything done nowadays has to be done online. Try getting someone to answer a phone. Very few banks. All my accounts are done online, don’t even see my accountant anymore. All VAT and Tax has to be done and paid for online. All my orders are done online and paid for by BACS. It’s just the way things are. I’m no spring chicken at 62 but have had to adapt over the last 20 years.
It’s now time that people except change and embrace it, the sport will be better off for it in the long run.

[Diamond Dave]

Goose, I do hope you are still looking in so that we may reply to your post
I have been to just one Regional meeting and have learned so much about the current state of the RPRA and I can confidently say that is in very real danger of splitting into factions. The current climate is certainly not one of harmony but more of discord.

There are apparantly 3 regions that have not paid last years levy! What will the RPRA do about it, tell me, what can they do about it?

There is one region that paid the levy then emptied their bank account to give all the monies back to the clubs.

These are all potential break-away groups that are voting with their feet

My own region is sitting on 30k (thats before the new membership fees are taken) will they distribute that back amongst the members and clubs? All the regions should all be non-profit making so how is it fair that the RPRA levy their members in the first place when the regions are potentially sitting on half a million pounds between them?
The Rpra is already in danger of going into meltdown, when all the above factors come to light it is likely it will do just that before the season has even started.
I would ask if you would re-consider your "parting statement" as the reality is that the new proposals will actually save the RPRA.

[Devo1956]

Topics like this will always have different views, of how the sport we love is going. I feel we would all like the same, but we all have different thoughts on how it can be achieved. What is important is that the sport that we all love, can be maintained in the correct manner for the members. Some it is a life times hobby, that they have enjoyed 365 days per year.

[Ian Evans]

How did you come to leave your employment with the RPRA? Totally understand if it's not something you want to put on an open forum I'm just curious. My previous comment about settling scores certainly wasn't aimed at anyone in particular so I find your response interesting

So if your comment isn't aimed at anyone what does my leaving the employment of the RPRA have to do with anything ?

My comment was not aimed at anyone hence why nobody's previous comments were quoted but I had a feeling you would feel the need to reply and I was just curious as to why? I may know more on the subject than you think but I'll be saying no more on this particular topic in fact I won't even be clicking on the thread again. If these changes are implemented which I think they may well be this time, in my opinion I think there's a very good chance there won't even be an RPRA in 12 months time. But you people can bash on with your saviours mentality, only time will tell if you are correct and I, like id imagine anyone else who enjoys this sport hope yous can fulfil what yous are promising to do. I'll finish again with a word of warning to folk, all that glitters isn't gold.

You should know everything there is to know on the subject because it's been widely publicised. My last annual review and the content within should be enough. In short, it includes. I was unwilling to keep trying to swim with my hands tied behind my back. The regions and individuals blocking change in what i beleive, was the interest of self preservation. You may think you know more than I realise but I'm not sure what else there is to know. I seem to recall your link to a senior council member. I maybe wrong. . I would love to know how you have come to that conclusion or what you have been told.
The fact you won't be clicking on the thread again tells me all I need to know. Your basing your opinion on one side. I'm open to having a healthy debate on the position with anyone whether on this site or other social media platforms. People have different opinions which I respect but it seems some won't respect others opinion but instead spread lies about those who have a different opinion in an attempt to undermine them or their opinion. ps my last comment does not refer to you.

In all my talks about the subject I habe encouraged members to engage in voting on the proposals whether for or against.


BUT if you want to chat offline. Here's my mobile 07508297893. That invitation goes for anyone..