RPRA Rule Changes

[Bowbroom]

I’m sorry you find my reference to friends condescending that was not my intention, however I find it somewhat unusual that unknowns don’t simply have the same point of view but manage to submit propositions to Council that are verbatim?
If no contact has ever been made between you how can this be ?

[Ian Evans]

I’m sorry you find my reference to friends condescending that was not my intention, however I find it somewhat unusual that unknowns don’t simply have the same point of view but manage to submit propositions to Council that are verbatim?
If no contact has ever been made between you how can this be ?

I've answered this question previously on the post. In the modern world it's simple and based on a democratic process. We used You tube to talk about the issues as we (i and others) see it. That resulted in a few people getting in touch via you tube, facebook etc asking how they could put forward proposals. Most of these individuals needed assistance. So 'we' did another you tube video and published a group of proposed rule changes so anyone who thought they were a good idea and wanted to support them could simply download them and submit. There's nothing strange in that. It's an open transparent approach. People aren't directly approached. There was no scheming. It was a simple case of people takling about their opinions and then the same people helping those who supported those opinions submit a proposal. The fact that two (actually I beleive more) regions received the same proposal is simply down to the fact that more than one club supported that opinion/proposal.

I've answered all your questions. Now would you do me the courtesy of answering mine.

[Bowbroom]

So you and others were the authors of the propositions and others such as Dave followed your lead,, copied and pasted etc and submitted what you had written word for word.
Effectively others did what you had suggested, I’m sorry but I’m struggling to describe what has clearly happened without using words that you will undoubtedly object to.
I shall not be commenting further as it is clearly pointless, all will out on the 28th and I will accept the result whatever it is, will you?

[Andy]

I’m sorry you find my reference to friends condescending that was not my intention, however I find it somewhat unusual that unknowns don’t simply have the same point of view but manage to submit propositions to Council that are verbatim?
If no contact has ever been made between you how can this be ?

Apart from on here I have had no dealings with Ian or Dave and even though the other Dave(Charlton) race in the same combine I have never met him or had any dealings with him apart from on here. But having been secretary of a couple of clubs and dealings with business contracts I know what is right and what is wrong. The whole way that this has been handled and taken away from the members is certainly wrong.

[Ian Evans]

So you and others were the authors of the propositions and others such as Dave followed your lead,, copied and pasted etc and submitted what you had written word for word.
Effectively others did what you had suggested, I’m sorry but I’m struggling to describe what has clearly happened without using words that you will undoubtedly object to.
I shall not be commenting further as it is clearly pointless, all will out on the 28th and I will accept the result whatever it is, will you?

It does seem pointless, I agree. I'm sure I will object because they will be based on ignorance.! I don't know who you are (you have declined to confirm ) but I have a good idea. How dare anyone do anything to Challenge the status quo and threaten the power that people perceive they have, hey !

Will I accept what happens on the 28th ??? Of course why wouldn't I. What I won't accept is the actions of some people and groups throughout the process and I'll reserve the right to challenge and help others challenge the actions of some.

[Diamond Dave]

Any member can attend the AGM, unless you were a Regional delegate to council you would not be able to take part in the business conducted but you would be welcomed as an observer to see how matters are conducted and in your case see first hand what happens to the propositions submitted by you and your friends.

Why would I want to do that. I already know how it will pan out! Now, if I could come along to vote....

[Diamond Dave]

So you and others were the authors of the propositions and others such as Dave followed your lead,, copied and pasted etc and submitted what you had written word for word.
Effectively others did what you had suggested, I’m sorry but I’m struggling to describe what has clearly happened without using words that you will undoubtedly object to.
I shall not be commenting further as it is clearly pointless, all will out on the 28th and I will accept the result whatever it is, will you?

Please tell me what you think is wrong with that Bowbroom as I dont understand where you are coming from.
I believe I represent the majority of the fancy by being a bit of a "layman". I am certainly not as well educated as your goodself and definately not as well spoken.
In short, I am that person that would put the commas and full stops in the wrong places!
Lets be honest, to get anything proposed and adopted, you need a solicitor to write it. What is the difference in asking someone to write it that knows how it should be presented OR are you insuating that "luddites" like me
(no offence to any other normal fanciers) would never be able to infiltrate your little clique because we didnt get an O level in English language.
Perhaps that is what you rely on to keep the clique safe.

[king]

So you and others were the authors of the propositions and others such as Dave followed your lead,, copied and pasted etc and submitted what you had written word for word.
Effectively others did what you had suggested, I’m sorry but I’m struggling to describe what has clearly happened without using words that you will undoubtedly object to.
I shall not be commenting further as it is clearly pointless, all will out on the 28th and I will accept the result whatever it is, will you?

The CAPTIVE RPRA membership has NO choice but accept the result. Those who run the RPRA know this. This is why the rules of the RPRA are so structured. With an ever decreasing membership of ALL Unions, the day WILL come when the other Unions in the UK, WILL open their boundaries to attract members for their own survival. When that day comes the RPRA will realize their days as a Union are well and truly numbered.

[Diamond Dave]

Hi King, hope you're well mate. So what would happen if I and others refused to pay our subs to the RPRA.?

[Winfort Lofts]

Hi King, hope you're well mate. So what would happen if I and others refused to pay our subs to the RPRA.?

We would be considered defaulters and be banned from racing.