Distance Birds

[MIL]

Yea, I've got all the respect in the world for Ad and his achievements

He's one of the absolute BEST in Europe

[MIL]

There's a variety of articles here for anyone wanting to learn more about Ad

https://www.pipa.be/en/fanciers/4369/fortuin-ad

[MIL]

Here's a couple of nice cocks Gavin

[MIL]

And this hen is bloody brilliant (my mate ordered one off her too)

A G.Daughter of 3 x 1st National Barcelona winners

She herself was 1st International Hens, 2nd National, 3rd International Perpignan

[NeilA]

Are the 600- 700 mile pigeons the same no matter where due to time on the wing
Or would say a 600 mile pigeon into Scotland that’s flying the flat part of France and the channel a little earlier in the day be a little different from a Barcelona pigeon to England with all the mountains or routes it’s forced to take be another kind of distance pigeon as then they have the water to face after doing 600 miles and more than likely had more extreme heat
I remember mark telling me once some years back he has his fast 500 mile pigeons and his slower but there be there 500 mile pigeons
Obviously Marks focus isn’t Barcelona but his tarbes / Lerwick record is excellent and he had two lines depending on the day

[goose1]

And this hen is bloody brilliant (my mate ordered one off her too)

A G.Daughter of 3 x 1st National Barcelona winners

She herself was 1st International Hens, 2nd National, 3rd International Perpignan

All top pigeons Mike. We've a hen there from Batenburg from Luna May she was 5th International in a real tough Barcelona when she was paired to a cock out of a pair who had won 1st (Sumerian Fighter) and 4th (saar) International , her first children are just at the yearling stage so be a year or two before we can make a judgement on her

[goose1]

Are the 600- 700 mile pigeons the same no matter where due to time on the wing
Or would say a 600 mile pigeon into Scotland that’s flying the flat part of France and the channel a little earlier in the day be a little different from a Barcelona pigeon to England with all the mountains or routes it’s forced to take be another kind of distance pigeon as then they have the water to face after doing 600 miles and more than likely had more extreme heat
I remember mark telling me once some years back he has his fast 500 mile pigeons and his slower but there be there 500 mile pigeons
Obviously Marks focus isn’t Barcelona but his tarbes / Lerwick record is excellent and he had two lines depending on the day

The first part of that would be difficult to answer Neil and something I've never really thought about, i suppose it depends on whether you buy into the theory that certain families fly better to certain areas or need time to acclimatise, which some people argue in favour of regardless of distances. I personally don't believe that.

[MIL]

All top pigeons Mike. We've a hen there from Batenburg from Luna May she was 5th International in a real tough Barcelona when she was paired to a cock out of a pair who had won 1st (Sumerian Fighter) and 4th (saar) International , her first children are just at the yearling stage so be a year or two before we can make a judgement on her

That's a hen with a lot in her locker there Gavin

Have you had her mated to shall we say a "continental" type cock or the English distance lines that you have?

[MIL]

Are the 600- 700 mile pigeons the same no matter where due to time on the wing
Or would say a 600 mile pigeon into Scotland that’s flying the flat part of France and the channel a little earlier in the day be a little different from a Barcelona pigeon to England with all the mountains or routes it’s forced to take be another kind of distance pigeon as then they have the water to face after doing 600 miles and more than likely had more extreme heat
I remember mark telling me once some years back he has his fast 500 mile pigeons and his slower but there be there 500 mile pigeons
Obviously Marks focus isn’t Barcelona but his tarbes / Lerwick record is excellent and he had two lines depending on the day

Thinking.........

[MIL]

The first part of that would be difficult to answer Neil and something I've never really thought about, i suppose it depends on whether you buy into the theory that certain families fly better to certain areas or need time to acclimatise, which some people argue in favour of regardless of distances. I personally don't believe that.

I can agree with that though Gavin

I don't buy into the theory of "acclimitisation"

I think that's just an all too easy excuse for a lack of success that's trotted out all too easily

Good birds, in peak health, fuelled correctly for the job, with a desire to get home fast are the winners

I think that applies regardless of distance really