NeilA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:17 am
To be honest it’s my fault to have missed them on here and to late now as we voted
But like you say if it’s not set out on the proposals I can’t see how anyone can vote for change as how do you vote for something you don’t know
I’m pretty sure none of my club are on here here regular either if at all
That could be the issue when the votes are in
And likewise I don't understand how people can vote against them when they have no real understanding of the content and what it means. Some obviously don't want to know for various reasons including being 'dogmatic' about trundling on in the same old way because that's the way we have always done it.
Thanks for your interest.
Probably vote for what they know and have had for years if they don’t know what the other options are.I guess that’s the safe option to choose
I’m not saying it’s the right one
Best of luck in the vote
Sorry, I've missed a lot of the latest posts again as I don't get on here every day.
I will say though, I have to agree with Goose and Neil, we don't have a club Facebook group, the Federation has one, but less than half of our members are on it. We also have several members, not just the older ones either, who don't do social media, some of those still don't even have smart phones. The Federation also has a "Telegram" group chat for Federation buisnes, but again less than half of our members are on it.
I'm only 58 and am a real technophobe and don't particularly like social media, but I do accept that sometimes I have to go with it.
NeilA wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 8:17 am
To be honest it’s my fault to have missed them on here and to late now as we voted
But like you say if it’s not set out on the proposals I can’t see how anyone can vote for change as how do you vote for something you don’t know
I’m pretty sure none of my club are on here here regular either if at all
That could be the issue when the votes are in
And likewise I don't understand how people can vote against them when they have no real understanding of the content and what it means. Some obviously don't want to know for various reasons including being 'dogmatic' about trundling on in the same old way because that's the way we have always done it.
Thanks for your interest.
I'm afraid, as I've said before, I'm not big on reading and my brain just doesn't take in information from books, only action. So unfortunately, unless its something I understand and am very passionate about, I will just sit on the fence and let those with a greater understanding than me make the decisions, but I also accept that because of that I have no right to question the decisions taken.
It is good that you've taken the time to come on here to try and raise awareness and to let us know what's going on in our sport.
Luckily everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Nobody's opinion is any more valuable than somebody else's. We all see things differently. The only thing that must happen is whatever the outcome of Fridays vote we all get behind them.
This is the third time I've wrote this and for some reason it hadn't posted. So here goes.
The proposal had a small chance of being successful from the outset. Turkeys don't vote for Christmas, but it seems some do. We were relying on those who don't currently engage in the system to do so. To their credit a lot of people have. Listening , digesting and then going out of the way to obtain a mandate (for or against the proposal) and then driving many miles in some cases to attend region meetings to register their vote. That's not a criticism of those who havent; I get why.
It's now time for me to turn my full attention (or at least that of my spare time) to other pigeon racing projects I'm involved with.... one of which will hopefully be launched in the next month or two (not a RPRA rival by the way ) . Hopefully fanciers and non fanciers for that matter will see the postives and potential related to it and will get behind it.
Unfortunately not everybody sees it that way, for some their opinion is the correct and only one and others views are denigrated and dismissed
It’s now down to Tomorrow after which people will have to decide which path to follow, best of luck to all.
goose1 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:04 am
Luckily everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Nobody's opinion is any more valuable than somebody else's. We all see things differently. The only thing that must happen is whatever the outcome of Fridays vote we all get behind them.
I agree with your comment about opinions. It's just a shame other more senior people in the RPRA don't see it that way.
As for getting behind the status quo I'm afraid that's something I can't do. I see it as the main reason for many of the issues in the RPRA and the sport. Accepting the outcome is of course different to supporting it.
Thank you
Unfortunately to late for us but I should have checked this thread a long time back before the club had the meeting in early February
Yeah to late but to be fair we did concentrate on pushing this via you tube and Facebook as that's where a larger proportion of fanciers can be reached.
I do like you tube for pigeon reports etc but didn’t see your videos probably due to my search
Facebook makes me cringe I had it once for 2 months and people I thought normal were suddenly sending photos to it of things of no interest to anyone , complete madness
Then others trying to add me that I had worked with on a one off job and probably never going to see again in my life .
Then once I worked out many seem to just want others to praise then I thought it’s time for me to go
So unfortunately I have never been back it was way over my head but I am stuck in the past I guess
Sorry to have missed your information previously though
goose1 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 27, 2025 9:04 am
Luckily everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Nobody's opinion is any more valuable than somebody else's. We all see things differently. The only thing that must happen is whatever the outcome of Fridays vote we all get behind them.
I agree with your comment about opinions. It's just a shame other more senior people in the RPRA don't see it that way.
As for getting behind the status quo I'm afraid that's something I can't do. I see it as the main reason for many of the issues in the RPRA and the sport. Accepting the outcome is of course different to supporting it.
Thanks for your comments.
If the current set up continues after Friday I'd like to give the current CEO and his team another couple of years before I make a judgement on them. Same as if the new propositions are carried forward I'd give the new set up 2 or 3 years before passing judgement. I have absolutely no allegiance to anyone. I'd just like us all to accept whatever the outcome and pull together to try and keep this sport going for as long as possible.
I wish you nothing but the best if the new propositions are successful tomorrow.
